Canada Allows Gender-Neutral "X" on Passports

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22 minutes ago, Kapi09 said:

Just give me your DNA and I will tell you if you are male or female, science is not lying.
You cant just change sex, because you feel the need.

I respect opinion of people that's accept this, I just wanted to tell you what is my opinion. Thats all... That is why this forum exist, right?

The majority of scientists accept that gender dysphoria is real and the proper treatment is gender change. Your science argument does not work here.

No one has to respect your opinion if your opinion disrespects the lives and identities of a huge group of people who are marginalised.

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

That doesn't mean there won't be cases. What ur saying Is a generalization

23 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

They sometimes have no choice if for business duty 

 I would not go to a place that is dangerous for gay people, regardless of what was on my passport, I wouldn't feel safe.

What about this makes is more of a big deal than sexuality? Nothing really, it's just a weird thing to bring up.

 

36 minutes ago, Swallow said:

Hm, is that so? As someone who considers himself bi, I'm having a hard time understanding the concept since it kinda diminishes the concept of bisexuality. Also watched a couple of vlogs made by gender-neutral people, and didn't like the way they think everyone has to ask the gender first before assuming. Have nothing againts them, as far as I care, you can consider yourself an elephant as long as you are not expecting the society to treat you as an elephant. 

Girl WHAT?

Vlogs aren't real life, meet some actual trans people before you decide they "diminish the concept of bisexuality."

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7 minutes ago, gag said:

Imagine being a Gaga fan and being THIS close-minded and transphobic 

I love her, her music and all of visuals, i accept her support for LGBT community, but it doesnt mean that i can't have a diffrent opinion about something...

Stop drama, stream Million Reasons

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1 minute ago, uo111 said:

 I would not go to a place that is dangerous for gay people, regardless of what was on my passport, I wouldn't feel safe.

What about this makes is more of a big deal than sexuality? Nothing really, it's just a weird thing to bring up.

 

Girl WHAT?

Vlogs aren't real life, meet some actual trans people before you decide they "diminish the concept of bisexuality."

"I would not go"

 

U just proved my point. That was a generalization. Not everyone is gonna make the same choices u would

 

Maybe some ppl don't wanna be restricted on their travels like that

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15 minutes ago, uo111 said:

No you don't actually. You just need to find a new way to describe nonbinary people.

Latino's have choosen latinx. As opposed to latino and latina. It's actually pretty damn easy if you are okay with treating nonbinary people like human beings.

How can I "find a way to describe nonbinary people" when that's how the language works

I have to use gender-based verbs and adjectives in order to speak the language. And that's how it works with most languages, at least here in Europe.

10 minutes ago, uo111 said:

Girl WHAT?

Vlogs aren't real life, meet some actual trans people before you decide they "diminish the concept of bisexuality."

Gurl what  I fully support the trans community and I don't see what does that have to do with anything. Never heard of trans people saying anything againts bisexuality. At least not to some serious extent. Meanwhile, non-binary people think "sex" shouldn't be a thing while trans people go through so much to change it. It's like the opposite of one another.

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17 minutes ago, Economy said:

"I would not go"

 

U just proved my point. That was a generalization. Not everyone is gonna make the same choices u would

 

Maybe some ppl don't wanna be restricted on their travels like that

That’s not a generalization actually it’s a very specific (ie my) point of view. 

And if someone who is nonbinary wants to put their life in danger, they can also make that choice. What is the issue?

 

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2 minutes ago, uo111 said:

That’s not a generalization actually it’s a very specific (ie my) point of view. 

And if someone who is nonbinary wants to put their life in danger, they can also make that choice. What is the issue?

 

U said ppl who are gay or have gender identities that those countries don't view in a positive light won't wanna go to those countries anyway... Now ur taking it back and saying they have the choice so which is it?

 

Im saying how u feel does not necessarily speak for every person

 

A countries culture, what there is to see etc has a lot of different factors

 

Not everyone feels that how the government runs gay laws alone should determine whether or not I'd wanna visit the country for something

 

I certainly don't feel that way

 

Tho in my case I don't have a gender identity issue which is not the same as homosexuality or bisexuality but u get my point

 

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1 hour ago, Kapi09 said:

I have the opportunity to express my own opinion. It is just too much. If you are human you are male or female. Any clothes or surgery won't change it!

if I feel like a dog, it does not mean that I am a dog.

girl you have an IG stan edit of gaga as your profile picture, please fix everything about yourself before you even dare come for the trans community 

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39 minutes ago, gag said:

The majority of scientists accept that gender dysphoria is real and the proper treatment is gender change. Your science argument does not work here.

No one has to respect your opinion if your opinion disrespects the lives and identities of a huge group of people who are marginalised.

PERIODT. Scientists back the trans community, doctors back them too, so people who scream 'it's science' show their ignorance and stupidity. 

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16 minutes ago, Economy said:

U said ppl who are gay or have gender identities that those countries don't view in a positive light won't wanna go to those countries anyway... Now ur taking it back and saying they have the choice so which is it?

 

Im saying how u feel does not necessarily speak for every person

 

A countries culture, what there is to see etc has a lot of different factors

 

Not everyone feels that how the government runs gay laws alone should determine whether or not I'd wanna visit the country for something

 

I certainly don't feel that way

 

Tho in my case I don't have a gender identity issue which is not the same as homosexuality or bisexuality but u get my point

 

Wait what?

I never said that anyone else won't want to go there anyways. I said they would be safer not going.

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2 minutes ago, avyruth said:

girl you have an IG stan edit of gaga as your profile picture, please fix everything about yourself before you even dare come for the trans community 

I am against the third type of gender. This is a big difference.  It does not bother me If they "change"  gender to male or female.

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42 minutes ago, Swallow said:

How can I "find a way to describe nonbinary people" when that's how the language works

I gave you a literal example. If you aren't interested in discussing it, then don't bother responding.

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20 minutes ago, Kapi09 said:

I am against the third type of gender. This is a big difference.  It does not bother me If they "change"  gender to male or female.

With what affects you that a person chooses x as its gender? I dont get it.

Homophobes and their types always find little reasons for spreading hate. This is just another one little reason. 

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1 hour ago, Swallow said:

Sis, calm down. I could've said a chair, has nothing to do with animals.

It's just so weird to me. Like how is a non-binary person supposed to even talk? It's easy if English is your native language, but in my native language - Croatian, every verb ends differently if it's being used by a male or female. For example 

English : "I went to a Lady Gaga concert last month"

Croatian [Male] : "Otišao sam na koncert Lady Gage prošli mjesec"

Croatian [Female] : "Otišla sam na koncert Lady Gage prošli mjesec"

You would still have to pick a gender in order to speak 

Lol. As I said. Why its so hard to understand this is designed for people who were born one gender and identified themself as the other gender? Its not about animals or objects. 

Your false problem has a simple solution. Every person has a name. Use their name. 

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9 minutes ago, Florin said:

Lol. As I said. Why its so hard to understand this is designed for people who were born one gender and identified themself as the other gender? Its not about animals or objects. 

Your false problem has a simple solution. Every person has a name. Use their name. 

Okay now I'm confused, weren't we discussing non-binary people? And now you are talking about something totally diffferent    If you are non-binary you don't even think you were born as male or female, there is no SEX, they think that's something the society taught us  and that in reality there shouldn't be "males" or "females".

My "false problem" ? Excuse me, I'm just trying to understand it, and you are not offering any explanation and only calling me out for comparing those people to animals? Really   Like, at least I'm expressing my opinion and want to be educated and all you do is act like you are right without giving any reasonable and valid response.

I simply said anyone can identify as they want to and used elephant as an example. Could've said male, female, child, old person, a truck, a wall etc but if they want to be fully accepted by the society and for the society to reffer to them using certain words I wanna know how exactly does that work. Let's say I'm non-binary, how am I supposed to speak in my native language? Use the female or male verbs/adjectives?