Guest Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Guillaume Hamon said: I don't think these difference are "shallow things" but the vote for the lesser of two evils is clearly a trap that keep a nasty system in place indeed. Yes and I understand people fall into it even if they know it because it does give short term solutions. But thinking long term is better in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresco 1,688 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said: Corporate democrats and republicans work for the same corporations, military industrial complex, and wall street. If Obama did not win, you guys would have the Romney care which is the same thing. You would have the same wars. Everything would be the same, only the shallow things are different. Continue voting for the better of two evils will keep these people in power controlling the American people. I do believe in nuance but I dont think this is nuance. Also, if you want me to vote for the better of two evil, I would pick Trump as I live in the Middle East and he is better on foreign policy. Voting for someone simply because they are not Trump will get you Trump in 2020. Voting someone because of their policy is what will get you real solutions specially long term. Troll, you are from Saudi Arabia and are not able to vote in any election, not even in your own country controlled by a King. I am offended that you continue to refer to both major political parties in the USA as 2 evils. Both of the political parties covers about 90% of Americans that have chosen a party. So, you are calling 90% of American evil. If you are not here as a Lady Gaga fan, you should leave this website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sky Juil said: Troll, you are from Saudi Arabia and are not able to vote in any election, not even in your own country controlled by a King. I am offended that you continue to refer to both major political parties in the USA as 2 evils. Both of the political parties covers about 90% of Americans that have chosen a party. So, you are calling 90% of American evil. If you are not here as a Lady Gaga fan, you should leave this website. I am here as a fan for over 10 years on this site. I dont care if you are offended there is nothing you can do about it. And yes I am not able to vote in my country hopefully we both can live in a democratic country one day and have our votes actually count. Edit: I did not call Americans evil, if you want to put words in my mouth to justify being triggered and offended, thats ur problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresco 1,688 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: I am here as a fan for over 10 years on this site. I dont care if you are offended there is nothing you can do about it. And yes I am not able to vote in my country hopefully we both can live in a democratic country one day and have our votes actually count. Edit: I did not call Americans evil, if you want to put words in my mouth to justify being triggered and offended, thats ur problem. Troll, stop denying that you called both political parties evil. I have quoted you in this thread and in the other thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Sky Juil said: Troll, stop denying that you called both political parties evil. I have quoted you in this thread and in the other thread. Yes both political parties are evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresco 1,688 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Yes both political parties are evil. Troll. You are evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sky Juil said: Troll. You are evil. Omg can you stop calling him a troll and I don't even agree with @Faysalaaa Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,115 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: He’s more than a vital voice, he’s the one that made progressivism gain traction in America. He was able to singlehandedly push the Democratic party to the left where it has been in the center for decades! That takes real leadership Although admittedly Warren has some awesome policy proposals which makes me want her as Bernie’s VP Not going to disagree I still like Warren better though Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,115 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: Yes both political parties are evil. Strongly disagree. One party is fighting for healthcare, higher wages, a cleaner environment, college education, global diplomacy, equal treatment for all sexes, races, genders, etc etc The other is fighting against all that and for whoever puts the most cash in their pockets. (Hint: this one is the GOP ) Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, PartySick said: Strongly disagree. One party is fighting for healthcare, higher wages, a cleaner environment, college education, global diplomacy, equal treatment for all sexes, races, genders, etc etc The other is fighting against all that and for whoever puts the most cash in their pockets. (Hint: this one is the GOP ) Democrats are against everything you mentioned! This is why progressives are smeared and attacked by the Democratic party. The Democratic party would rather have Trump but not a progressive. But just because they support good things, does not mean they cant be evil, they do horrible evil stuff. I personally cant support Democrats or Republicans, I only like Progressives and Libertarians and I hope America transforms into these political parties instead of what we have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,115 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Democrats are against everything you mentioned! This is why progressives are smeared and attacked by the Democratic party. The Democratic party would rather have Trump but not a progressive. But just because they support good things, does not mean they cant be evil, they do horrible evil stuff. I personally cant support Democrats or Republicans, I only like Progressives and Libertarians and I hope America transforms into these political parties instead of what we have now. Literally every democratic candidate is running on these or similar policies. Save a few (Biden on climate, Pete on healthcare). Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: Literally every democratic candidate is running on these or similar policies. Save a few (Biden on climate, Pete on healthcare). They started running on these policies after progressives pressured them and Bernie changed the Democratic party. But also, these politicians are lying about supporting Medicare for all for example. They say things like we support it if we can get it done. We support it if it makes sense. Or yes I support it but we need to talk about it more. They also dont put it as a priority in their campaign and arent promising people medicare for all. So they are trying to play around it. Lets also not forget that most republicans support progressive policies. Watch this video starting from 6:30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 The next argument is going to be to bring back the McCarthyism to the forefront to scare older conservative Democrats that Uncle Joe Biden is the guy to beat the orange boogeyman. BUT. They will not win this time & those of you who think any other candidate is the one really need to reflect and do some research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, PartySick said: Not going to disagree I still like Warren better though Fair enough See you at the primaries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,115 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: Fair enough See you at the primaries With bells on my #Warren2020 heels Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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