Antoni 5,332 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 PREPARE TO BE CREEPED OUT A week or so ago, a friend said they'd been thinking about horses and learning to ride them, and that soon later they started seeing ads for horseback riding lessons. They texted no one about it. They typed it no where. They didn't even say it aloud. Just as a joke kinda, I theorized that maybe our phones can pick up our brain waves just like Bluetooth. It's been proven for years every thought creates a unique brain wave, like different radio stations have different channels. NOW THIS COMES OUT AND I'M CERTAIN I'M ONTO SOMETHING. Not only will robots take over Earth, they will read our minds and know our plans to try to stop them. Boom. Article: A.I. Is Turning Thoughts Into Speech (70% Accuracy So Far) - https://bigthink.com/technology-innovation/artificial-intelligence My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 66,582 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I'M ****ED Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Timmers said: every thought creates a unique brain wave i'm sorry but that sounds bullshit. although i only took one course in cognitive science, so i am no expert or anything, i can tell you that our symbolic system or representation as such, both of which you can "simply" call consciousness, have not been solved and, in fact, can never be solved because it is literally thinking about thinking, meaning that you simply cannot position yourself outside yourself or, differently put, project yourself onto a horizon from which you can be excluded to view yourself as "other." also, if you approach the cited proposition from the perspective of formal logic, on which all algorithms are based, it think, you can easily see that if every thought is unique and has its own "brain wave" (sounds esoteric as funk, btw; i can only imagine the term used in the context of physical measurement or something), then it is impossible to decode it because there is no algorithmic pattern detailed enough or matrix big enough by which and within which everything can be translated. at least, that's my take on it. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Normal algorithms are made in such a way that things that might interest you, are likely to pop up. It's just not probable that AI can read our minds, the brain is still a black box. Otherwise we'd be solving crimes left and right. What's more probable is that your friend has preferences that are similar to the group that the horseriding ads want to reach. It's not a stretch. Facebook and Google have a lot of information based on what we search, what we like and even how much time we spend on different places on the internet or (through Google Maps) where we go and how much time we spend in places. If you're the typical profile that a company wants to reach, then that's probably what's causing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlikegaga 9,117 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 someone use this on Gaga ASAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Eh - technology is advanced but not THAT advanced. But your friend probably liked something, is part of a group on social media, or possibly looked up something related to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 7,048 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I saw a post about the same thing happening to someone else and it's happened to me before too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNES 6,070 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Youtube is ALWAYS recommending me songs I had in my heathe whole day without singing them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 I love how half the people here are like "fake news" without doing any research at all. Okay, Sandra. My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusel 1,111 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Ok I'm all for Silicon Valley skepticism but your phones can't just pick up your brain waves like bluetooth. They implanted these in people skulls for measurements: The article also mentions how participants were reading these "thoughts" aloud or at least miming them with mouth movements: "Speech created by mapping brain activity to movements of the vocal tract and translating them to sound is more easily understood than that produced by mapping brain activity directly to sound, says Stephanie Riès, a neuroscientist at San Diego State University in California. But it’s unclear whether the new speech decoder would work with words that people only think, says Amy Orsborn, a neural engineer at the University of Washington in Seattle. “The paper does a really good job of showing that this works for mimed speech,” she says. “But how would this work when someone’s not moving their mouth?” So - while you can definitely never be definite about anything these days - it's really unlikely that such technologies are advanced enough to be used by big data companies as of now. And it might not even be necessary for them because their algorithms, though they lack a true understanding of what they're doing, do not forget a single detail of your online activity and are able to make the most insane predictions about your interests, behavior, personality and development that might seem counter intuitive to humans. Before you get scared about mind reading through brain waves, realize you should already be scared of the data mining that's happening in this very moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,652 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 AI isn't "reading minds" so much as it is "following known brain scan patterns and organizing and utilizing the information much more quickly than a human could." Like any good computer program lol. That article isn't not a very good explanation of that technology; it's mostly a loose collection of "SCARY BAD AI!!!" stories .Here's better coverage of the fascinating way we are using brain-to-computer interfaces to improve the lives of disabled people https://preview-www.nature.com/platform/rh/preview/page/nature/brain-implants-that-let-you-speak-your-mind/16645644?view=fragmentPreview How the brain-computer-interface "reads minds" is like this: it creates a scan of brain activity when the subject (who is hooked up to a noggin full of electrodes) is thinking about how the mouth and throat forms a certain word. As most people know, different areas of the brain are associated with and "light up" when doing different activities, or even thinking about those activities. Muscle movement is associated with the cerebellum, sight with the occipital lobe, etc. This would also apply on a much more subtle level to control of all body motions: the movements of individual finger joints, the entire range of facial expressions, and yes, the subtle ways the lips, tongue, and larynx move to form words. Each "word" is not read by the computer, but the way the vocal cords would be moved is predicted, and that is translated with a second program into speech. This is why the technology only works for people who know how to talk and thus can activate the brain parts to control speech muscles, and does not work for those who have never spoken but can still think words and sentences. This brain-computer-interface technology could also be used to let people control their artificial limbs. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170206084904.htm My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Luc said: Normal algorithms are made in such a way that things that might interest you, are likely to pop up. It's just not probable that AI can read our minds, the brain is still a black box. Otherwise we'd be solving crimes left and right. What's more probable is that your friend has preferences that are similar to the group that the horseriding ads want to reach. It's not a stretch. Facebook and Google have a lot of information based on what we search, what we like and even how much time we spend on different places on the internet or (through Google Maps) where we go and how much time we spend in places. If you're the typical profile that a company wants to reach, then that's probably what's causing this. This! The "internet of things" is a new revolution in the internet vs it's early days New algorithms now make the internet smarter than it used to be. It tracks your behaviours and tastes and picks out stuff that it believes will be specifically interesting to you While u may not have searched about horseback riding specifically, you may have other traits and patterns simmilar to that of other people who are also interested in horseback riding It's either that or a pure coincidence. Our technology is not advanced enough to just pick up what ur thinking and if it was we'd know about it this is not something companies could just hide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTV 13,897 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Sis its time to log off and get some fresh air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChromeAngel 3,230 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Why translate my thoughts when they can just visit www.p*r*hub.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Heh, I had a dream about pretty girls once...next thing you know I had a daughter....no ai.. ur nutn' like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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