Netanyahu: a Palestinian state wont be created

[Petrichor 4,640]

13 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

I'm not sure why you need to start to curse but you do you, I guess.

And I was talking about world issues, world crimes. And your recent activity on Gagadaily shows you're mostly opinionated in that area only on Israel/Palestine, despite the dozens of threads available on other topics. 

On Twitter, I didn't see that you address world crimes either but I am not going to search throughout your entire history. 

 

The border issue is a world issue. Brexit is a world issue. The border issue is a world crime. Perhaps you should open up your world view. Also, this appears to be the only topic I've ever posted in on the I-P Conflict. Everyone can check for themselves: https://gagadaily.com/profile/6912-petrichor/content/ . I won't tolerate your attempted character assassination. Cut the crap. I'm swearing because I'm infuriated by your bigotry and straight up-lies. Your ignorance is unflinching.

[lego 44,165]

3 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

Indeed.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is "relatively small" when you have  so many other things happening in the world.

And the Anti-Israeli campaign is by fact much stronger. Thus why we have people, who have no personal connection to this situation and they probably couldn't find Israel in the map years ago if they were asked, have an opinion suddenly. 

 

Tell that to the millions of Palestinian refugees scattered around the world who are not allowed to go to their homes and millions of others living under military occupation.

This conflict was never small and it was always important whenever there are talks about peace in the Middle East and that affects a lot of people. 

Palestinians don’t have decades of American military and media support, they don’t have billions supporting their army, they don’t have AIPAC, they don’t have governments paying to students to spread hasbara online. So I don’t understand how  is anything “anti-Israeli” stronger?

Maybe you see more young people on social media actually informing themselves about it and you don’t like that. 

[Ronlop 6,882]

4 minutes ago, Petrichor said:

The border issue is a world issue. Brexit is a world issue. The border issue is a world crime. Perhaps you should open up your world view. Also, this appears to be one of the only topics I've ever posted in on the I-P Conflict. Everyone can check for themselves: https://gagadaily.com/profile/6912-petrichor/content/ . I won't tolerate your attempted character assassination. Cut the crap. I'm swearing because I'm infuriated by your bigotry. You're ignorance is unflinching.

But the only other World News topics you commented on GGD were:

 

Which are both somewhat connected to you because you live in the US and you're obviously delved in the politics there.

But what I'm asking is why you chose to state such a clear opinion on the Israeli situation and ignored the dozens other of world crimes threads in the section.  I was questioning that. 

It's just strange that in such a problematic place like the Middle East, you seem to care only about one conflict. And That increases chances to anti-semistism or anti-zionism which I'm not saying you are.  But it is definitely double standards. 

 

[Othon 34,299]

15 minutes ago, Melech said:

You know that white supremacy wants Jews dead?  and that more than half of Israeli population is Sephardim/Mizrahim ? 

You mean the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that face notorious racism, have never been elected PM, are underrepresented in the government and bear the burden of Israeli poverty?

The Israeli government is largely white, is backed by Western governments, and exacts violence on Palestinian arabs. The EU has condemned Israel's human rights violations against arabs multiple times. That's the white supremacy I'm talking about. It's a global struggle and we're all implicated, which is why the users here that don't live in either Israel or Palestine care.

[Varys 30,916]

2 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

But the only other World News topics you commented on GGD were:

 

Which are both somewhat connected to you because you live in the US and you're obviously delved in the politics there.

But what I'm asking is why you chose to state such a clear opinion on the Israeli situation and ignored the dozens other of world crimes threads in the section.  I was questioning that. 

It's just strange that in such a problematic place like the Middle East, you seem to care only about one conflict. And That increases chances to anti-semistism or anti-zionism which I'm not saying you are.  But it is definitely double standards. 

 

Why are you going on a personal crusade against @Petrichor ?

 leave him alone 

[Ronlop 6,882]

12 minutes ago, lego said:

 

Tell that to the millions of Palestinian refugees scattered around the world who are not allowed to go to their homes and millions of others living under military occupation.

This conflict was never small and it was always important whenever there are talks about peace in the Middle East and that affects a lot of people. 

Palestinians don’t have decades of American military and media support, they don’t have billions supporting their army, they don’t have AIPAC, they don’t have governments paying to students to spread hasbara online. So I don’t understand how  is anything “anti-Israeli” stronger?

Maybe you see more young people on social media actually informing themselves about it and you don’t like that. 

I'm not saying it's not important.

I said it's "relatively small" when you look at everything else that is happening in the world and in the middle east in particular. This is only one conflict.

And the Palestinians hasbara is actually spread quite well by BDS. The European Union and private foundations  contribute millions of dollars and euros for BDS campaigns.  Individual governments, primarily but not exclusively from Europe, transfer millions annually to pro-BDS groups.

So that is already false.  

 

I see more and more people on social media not seeing the big picture. And that's why I feel it should be talked about.

[lego 44,165]

18 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

You clearly don't know much about the Israeli politics. 

The "Likud", the party he leads, is actually a right-middle wing party. The real danger is with the right & extreme right parties that might join in the coilition and that would lead him to make dangerous actions, I agree.

But as a prime minister, other than accepting settlements in the West Bank & the attacks on Gaza (which were mostly an act of defense), his actions were quite indifferent and didn't worsten the situation.

But he didn't make any progress or strived to make peace negotiations. His views are to keep things as they are which I clearly don't agree with. Which is why I don't support him.

Is he a monster? No. 

And also, he has several lawsuits filled against him. I don't support the idea of a prime minister with open lawsuits...

 

“Arab voters are heading to the polling stations in droves”

“weak are slaughtered, strong survive”

"Israel is not a state of all its citizens, Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people - and only it."

“Netanyahu asks if African ‘infiltrators’ can be forcibly removed from Israel”

“Netanyahu vows to annex illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank”

...

 

 

he’s literally a racist war criminal, but you call that “self-defense” and just being different.. 

[Petrichor 4,640]

10 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

But the only other World News topics you commented on GGD were:

 

Which are both somewhat connected to you because you live in the US and you're obviously delved in the politics there.

But what I'm asking is why you chose to state such a clear opinion on the Israeli situation and ignored the dozens other of world crimes threads in the section.  I was questioning that. 

It's just strange that in such a problematic place like the Middle East, you seem to care only about one conflict. And That increases chances to anti-semistism or anti-zionism which I'm not saying you are.  But it is definitely double standards. 

 

You're obviously implying I'm an anti-semite - I'm not. Just stop. Go bug someone else. Also, may I add, this forum is primarily to discuss GAGA. Sorry I choose to talk about the happenings of the world somewhere else besides a website devoted to Lady Gaga. 

[Melech 9,900]

12 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

You mean the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that face notorious racism, have never been elected PM, are underrepresented in the government and bear the burden of Israeli poverty?

The Israeli government is largely white, is backed by Western governments, and exacts violence on Palestinian arabs. The EU has condemned Israel's human rights violations against arabs multiple times. That's the white supremacy I'm talking about. It's a global struggle and we're all implicated, which is why the users here that don't live in either Israel or Palestine care.

The white supremacy argument is false. Ashkenazi Jews do not gain anything from White Supremacy. In the opposite, actually. Maybe you should educate yourself about antisemitism. 

[geopang 4,831]

Israel deserves to exist

[gumzy3000 7,948]

1 hour ago, Ronlop said:

 

 

 

 

I do not support him by any means and I do hope the middle-left party will win tomorrow so they could replace him. (There are elections tomorrow)

But it's absurd to think none of you were here to comment about this thread. It's horrible how one-sided you guys are and you are willing to talk only about the things you want to hear. This conflict is far more complicated than you make it seem. And as someone who supports the idea of a Palestinian state, it's not at all costs. 

 

Violence is not the answer but Israel has literally bombed schools and hospitals, stopped foreign aid from reaching Palestine and abuses the Palestinians. Not to mention they have been stealing West Bank land for a long time now, and yes it is STEALING. Also, look at the death tolls in both sides and tell me if you honestly think Palestine is the oppressor here? Not to even mention the amount of Palestinian kids who have died. 

And you really think Israelis want peace? There are videos online of Israelis watching bombs fall on Palestine and cheering. When one side is smashing the other side with such brute force then there is a clear problem. And let’s be real, Israel would be nothing without US support and that is backed only by the hateful ultra conservatives. 

[Varys 30,916]

1 minute ago, geopang said:

Israel deserves to exist

Who says it doesn't 

[geopang 4,831]

1 minute ago, Varys said:

Who says it doesn't 

Based off the replies in this thread, the majority of the members here

[Varys 30,916]

Just now, geopang said:

Based off the replies in this thread, the majority of the members here

Give specific exemples please?

[Ronlop 6,882]

1 minute ago, gumzy3000 said:

Violence is not the answer but Israel has literally bombed schools and hospitals, stopped foreign aid from reaching Palestine and abuses the Palestinians. Not to mention they have been stealing West Bank land for a long time now, and yes it is STEALING. Also, look at the death tolls in both sides and tell me if you honestly think Palestine is the oppressor here? Not to even mention the amount of Palestinian kids who have died. 

And you really think Israelis want peace? There are videos online of Israelis watching bombs fall on Palestine and cheering. When one side is smashing the other side with such brute force then there is a clear problem. And let’s be real, Israel would be nothing without US support and that is backed only by the hateful ultra conservatives. 

The death toll is different because Israel has a better defence mechanism. There are serious terrorists on the Palestinian side and I'm not going to just post links to articles for you to read. Some really horrible stuff.

" Israel has literally bombed schools and hospitals,"- Are you aware that Hamas were hiding or hiding weapon in schools, hospitals or public areas? Do you even agree that Hamas is a terrorist organization?

"And you really think Israelis want peace?"- Generalization. I am an Israeli and I want peace. And so do many others.

"There are videos online of Israelis watching bombs fall on Palestine and cheering."- Some idiots dictating your views on Israel? And also, have you seen their videos?