Why are Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake credited but not Britney?

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6 minutes ago, Vegas said:

I’m pretty sure a lot of artists did that before Blackout.

No one heard Blackout besides the singles, so it’s a reach to give it credit for being “influential” when it wasn’t even a thing outside the gay scene. 

Can you name the artists/producers who you are “pretty sure” did this before? Was their work more influential? Did they start the trend and Britney’s producers copied? If they did this before and it was influential it should be easy to name so I’ll wait.

[corvus albus 38,031]

3 minutes ago, PenthousePssy said:

Can you name the artists/producers who you are “pretty sure” did this before? Was their work more influential? Did they start the trend and Britney’s producers copied? If they did this before and it was influential it should be easy to name so I’ll wait.

First that come to mind are the Black Eyed Peas. Eventhough they were a Hip Hop group they had loads of electronic influences and they started getting bigger and bigger even before Blackout  especially with Elephunk (2003) and later even more with Monkey Business (2005)

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41 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

First that come to mind are the Black Eyed Peas. Eventhough they were a Hip Hop group they had loads of electronic influences and they started getting bigger and bigger even before Blackout  especially with Elephunk (2003) and later even more with Monkey Business (2005)

I was speaking about the background vocal productions...so I’m not sure what this is.

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Because Britney Spears isn't as talented as the other 2

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2 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

When it comes to US radio, Gaga was before BEP and Guetta. Just Dance and Poker Face began blowing up before Boom Boom Pow, I Gotta Feeling and whatever single David Guetta released 

Didn't Womanizer reach #1 on pop radio before Just Dance and Poker Face did?

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Pretty much the answer to all your threads ''Why isn't Britney credited for X thing'' is ''because she didn't do X thing''.

On the top of my head I remember 3 other threads like this from you and I'm not sure if you are not trolling.

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1 hour ago, corvus albus said:

First that come to mind are the Black Eyed Peas. Eventhough they were a Hip Hop group they had loads of electronic influences and they started getting bigger and bigger even before Blackout  especially with Elephunk (2003) and later even more with Monkey Business (2005)

I didn't read the whole discussion you had with Vegas. When It comes to background vocals though your argument is even weaker. Timbaland alone was doing this since the 90's with Missy Elliot and Aaliyah and have you ever heard of something called the 80's? Weird background noises and adlibs were the IT thing then and started to have a comeback in the early 90's. Britney just never was an innovator in pop music and she doesn't have to be. She had an amazing career and no one can ever take this from her. Why do people try to credit her for things she neither did nor actually revolutionized. 

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32 minutes ago, Widows Kiss said:

Didn't Womanizer reach #1 on pop radio before Just Dance and Poker Face did?

The EDM scene has credited Gaga, not Britney. Google it  It also speaks volumes that not many artists suddenly did EDM after Womanizer hit #1, but EVERYONE started doing that sound following Gaga 

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5 hours ago, corvus albus said:

 

Firstly: Britney neither wrote nor produced Toxic. Two of the other singles flopped horribly and Everytime is not electro-pop.  Britney just never represented electro-pop with In The Zone. Also because it wasn't very good. Quality and lasting impact of the record are two very important things and In The Zone had neither.

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I really like Britney but In The Zone is all over the place quality-wise which is why it had little to no staying power.

 

It's absolutely ludicrous to say Britney 'neither wrote or produced' whatever music when Rihanna is considered one of the most influential artist when she herself has NEITHER WRITTEN  or PRODUCED ANY OF HER MUSIC.

People talk about Umbrella being one of the greatest/impactful songs of the 21st Century when she had nothing to do with it.

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1 hour ago, corvus albus said:

Britney just never was an innovator in pop music and she doesn't have to be. She had an amazing career and no one can ever take this from her. Why do people try to credit her for things she neither did nor actually revolutionized. 

Then you have no choice but to relegate Rihanna to that same playing field when she herself has neither written or produced any of her so-called impactful music for her entire career.

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1 minute ago, mzncb said:

It's absolutely ludicrous to say Britney 'neither wrote or produced' whatever music when Rihanna is considered one of the most influential artist when she herself has NEITHER WRITTEN  or PRODUCED ANY OF HER MUSIC.

People talk about Umbrella being one of the greatest/impactful songs of the 21st Century when she had nothing to do with it.

What does this have to do with anything? The fact is that Britney didn't do anything but sing over Toxic and that's it. 

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Just now, corvus albus said:

What does this have to do with anything? The fact is that Britney didn't do anything but sing over Toxic and that's it. 

This is no different than the entirety of the much more acclaimed Rihanna's career.

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1 minute ago, mzncb said:

Then you have no choice but to relegate Rihanna to that same playing field when she herself has neither written or produced any of her so-called impactful music for her entire career.

But Rihanna's songs are influential and so were some of Britney's songs. It just so happened that In The Zone didn't have any impact. More importantly: why are you dragging Rihanna into this mess? You seem to have an awkward amount of contempt for that woman

[corvus albus 38,031]

1 minute ago, mzncb said:

This is no different than the entirety of the much more acclaimed Rihanna's career.

Rihanna's career isn't acclaimed and whoever told you that was lying. She has the general public on her side but she never really had the critics and that's it.

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5 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

Rihanna's career isn't acclaimed and whoever told you that was lying. She has the general public on her side but she never really had the critics and that's it.

We all know Rihanna is far more respected in the music industry.

Regardless...

3 hours ago, corvus albus said:

I just always like to go back to Britney saying she wanted to move in a more urban sound but her best song of ITZ is her least "urban" song of the album. If you know the album you know that this song is Everytime. But more importantly unlike JT and Nelly Furtado who made magic happen on their respective albums around that time with Timbaland, Britney only got Danja (for Blackout and Circus), who's good (heck he made the best song of Britney's career) but he's still only a Timbaland knockoff. 

To come back to the most important aspect though is longevity and impact. The album had 7 nonconsecutive weeks on the billboard 200 which was really bad for Britney at that time. And unlike the JT and Nelly album no one outside of toxic is talking about this period of Britney and she overwrote it herself with the following disastrous years and her two followup album which managed to stick more in peoples mind.

Her most influential album sonically is her first and the Max Martin sound it helped propel into everlasting fame. ITZ is kind of a failed experiment which is why It had pretty much no real impact besides a Grammy for best dance recording.

I disagree with saying her most influential album sonic-ally is her first.  Much of the work Bloodshy & Avant did on Blackout  clearly presaged music that Keisha started doing in the early 2010s, among others.