Joe Biden and #MeToo

[Othon 34,299]

1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

I didn't say the OP said that. Read my words.

He's acted a bit creepy but you're tying him in with #MeToo as if he's a predator.

He was accused to touching, smelling and kissing a woman against her will in a workplace environment. You don't have to be a rapist to be a predator. Oh my god. 

[FATCAT 60,909]

1 minute ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

He was accused to touching, smelling and kissing a woman against her will in a workplace environment. You don't have to be a rapist to be a predator. Oh my god. 

None of that is a sex crime. I'm using the legal term.

[mauvais 0]

4 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I didn't say the OP said that. Read my words.

He's acted a bit creepy but you're tying him in with #MeToo as if he's a predator.

No one in this thread or otherwise is painting him to be a rapist. It's just not happening. 

[Othon 34,299]

3 minutes ago, Ego Slayer said:

We have to be smart, I feel like this is a problem within the Democratic Party. We need to elect someone like joe Biden so we get the leaning/undecided votes in order to beat trump. His base is just to big not to. I’m pretty sure there are allegations against everyone that runs but who would we rather have,Trump or Biden? Make your choice.

Oh my god.

I can't even begin to try to address that line of thinking.

[Morphine Prince 109,896]

Yeah I’ve heard about this before and I just know it will come out if he announces he’s running and especially if he becomes the nominee. 

At worst we’ll have 2 men accussed of sexually inappropriate behavior running for president. 

[FATCAT 60,909]

1 minute ago, mauvais said:

No one in this thread or otherwise is painting him to be a rapist. It's just not happening. 

People on the right & far left definitely are. Never said it was people in this thread. Read my words.

[LilyLark 10,213]

While some people (mostly far right, but some on the far left) people go way too far describing him as a pedo or creepy around kids (seriously, the one photo of him with the kid is taken out of context/a flash second)...he is VERY touchy around women and men.

There is no way it will fly in 2019. Journalists have investigated him in the past (some admitted it on twitter) and said that no one described his actions as sexual harassment, but still borderline inappropriate and overly familiar. There's a fine line, and people say he walked that line all the time.

[Othon 34,299]

4 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

None of that is a sex crime. I'm using the legal term.

So we should just ignore it, right?

[Ego Slayer 402]

6 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

Oh my god.

I can't even begin to try to address that line of thinking.

You don’t think I want our president to be perfect and progressive and everything I see in a good leader? The current world we live in doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

[Othon 34,299]

Just now, Ego Slayer said:

You don’t think I want our president to be perfect and progressive and everything I see in a good leader? The current world we live in doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

I was talking about the fact that you said that every potential 2020 nominee is likely to be accused of assault. 

And voting for a centrist definitely worked in 2016. We should absolutely just try that again and see what happens.

[Morphine Prince 109,896]

He has apologized for the Anita Hill fiasco. At least there’s that. 

[mauvais 0]

12 minutes ago, Ego Slayer said:

We have to be smart, I feel like this is a problem within the Democratic Party. We need to elect someone like joe Biden so we get the leaning/undecided votes in order to beat trump. His base is just to big not to. I’m pretty sure there are allegations against everyone that runs but who would we rather have,Trump or Biden? Make your choice.

Uh, it's not Biden vs Trump until it's Biden vs Trump. I'm going to vote in the primary for the democrat I want elected President in a concerted effort not to elect anyone accused of creepy behavior, sexual harassment, sexual assault, etc. You do realize there's half a dozen women who will never face allegations and even more men who are not accused of any misconduct running, right? Look at Obama who never acted like this and never faced allegations of misconduct, even as Republicans tried their hardest to destroy him with Birtherism, etc.

[Ego Slayer 402]

1 minute ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

I was talking about the fact that you said that every potential 2020 nominee is likely to be accused of assault. 

And voting for a centrist definitely worked in 2016. We should absolutely just try that again and see what happens.

But it’s literally fact. People intentionally create false stories to destroy someone’s campaign, it’s ABCs of politics. (I am not saying this didn’t happen with joe), I’m just stating that if it does come down to Biden and Trump we have to make our choice.

[Thotiana 872]

That’s what Democrats do. They’ll forget to cancel one of them quickly. Joe Biden is exactly what we don’t need in 2020. He can go and hang out with Obama or something.

[Othon 34,299]

5 minutes ago, Ego Slayer said:

But it’s literally fact. People intentionally create false stories to destroy someone’s campaign, it’s ABCs of politics. (I am not saying this didn’t happen with joe), I’m just stating that if it does come down to Biden and Trump we have to make our choice.

You said that we have to vote for a centrist like Biden because he'd (supposedly) be able to pick up independents, regardless of whether he's been accused of harassing women or not. There is no record of politicians being repeatedly falsely accused of sexual harassment and when that sort thing does happen, it's easily debunked. We absolutely don't have to vote for someone who has a long history of acting inappropriately around women to beat Trump. We have a dozen better choices.