Tom Nook 37,805 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: Also why is 75% of everone here so against Nicki or the thought of Gaga working with her when Gaga worked with pretty AB (who yes is talented) idg the nicki stigma I’m more critical against Nicki because all the messy stuff she’s been involve she’s either been unapologetic about it or has put the blame on something ridiculous like “no power” plus unless she can spit out another Monster verse then I am not here for a collab because aside from the train wreck that is post-2013 AB at least Gaga saw some creativity and originality and frankly I’m not impressed with Nicki’s verses on her bajillion features Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Runway said: Don’t wish something on someone you wouldn’t want someone to wish on Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,663 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 But artRAVE was a complete tour without cancellation due to power issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, River said: 1 Most of her verses are all the same "I'm the best, you eat junk, blah blah" or they are some copy of other female rappers verses.. like Anaconda's verses has the same structure and idea of How Many Licks. 2 And also she's dating a pedophile and has a song that she promoted the hell out it with a pedophile, she's feuding with every single female rapper and she's laughing about mentally ill people. 3 So she pretty much earn the place that she is right now.. Some good things that I can say is that her flow is very good and her best song is Pills and Potions. See a month ago i kinda was done with her for these reasons too bur: 1 yes they can be similar butlike.. moment 4 life Your Love Superbass Roman's Revenge Monster Beez etc Motorsport Chun Li Hard White Good Form Plain Jane all these are pretty great? Also let's not forget she writes the majority herself 2 oh is she? Which female rapper isn't? Isn't she the one doing it the least Also in this case would she not possibly be dealing with mental issues herself? So what's the difference between people saying what they say about her online and what she's said? 3 R Kellys rumors are nothing new, I've heard all that literally when i was young and my parents would pay let it burn etc So Gaga would of too, hence "say what you want about me" If anyone said Gaga earned to be hated on because of that I'd say all this too, probs more https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gardevoir said: I’m more critical against Nicki because all the messy stuff she’s been involve she’s either been unapologetic about it or has put the blame on something ridiculous like “no power” plus unless she can spit out another Monster verse then I am not here for a collab because aside from the train wreck that is post-2013 AB at least Gaga saw some creativity and originality and frankly I’m not impressed with Nicki’s verses on her bajillion features I agree, tbh! Also she does alot of verses though but just find the good ones Also i speculate Nicki does alot of coke Its mentioned in like almost all of her songs and it would make sense of her outbursts that people get turned off by, which she probably didn't mean to come across how it does, hence after she won't take blame https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bradley said: But artRAVE was a complete tour without cancellation due to power issues. Lol what? first off artrave was damn ugly, second why would nicki cancel by choice and come up with the sam excuse that's now had her DRAGGED all over the internet I saw her in Bham and the next day she cancelled ireland cos the boats couldn't get the stage across sea in the weather I am 99% sure her tour directors should have this all down before, I almost feel bad for her because it looks bad on her not anyone else https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, LanaDelGrant said: idk bro just opinions have a hug it's ok to disagree No I know I have a very argumentative way of typing but i promise that's not how i meant it https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 112,948 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: See a month ago i kinda was done with her for these reasons too bur: 1 yes they can be similar butlike.. moment 4 life Your Love Superbass Roman's Revenge Monster Beez etc Motorsport Chun Li Hard White Good Form Plain Jane all these are pretty great? Also let's not forget she writes the majority herself 2 oh is she? Which female rapper isn't? Isn't she the one doing it the least Also in this case would she not possibly be dealing with mental issues herself? So what's the difference between people saying what they say about her online and what she's said? 3 R Kellys rumors are nothing new, I've heard all that literally when i was young and my parents would pay let it burn etc So Gaga would of too, hence "say what you want about me" If anyone said Gaga earned to be hated on because of that I'd say all this too, probs more She has no female rapper friends for example.. She laughed anout a mental ill homeless woman and posted it on her instagram, I mean, it’s pure cureality to do such thing. Nicki defending her pedophile boyfriend and 69 too.. she also defended her pedophile brother.. Gaga AP era was because of the music, Nicki is because her behavior so it’s not at all the same.. Come on and wrap that blade of grass around my hairy ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, River said: She has no female rapper friends for example.. She laughed anout a mental ill homeless woman and posted it on her instagram, I mean, it’s pure cureality to do such thing. Nicki defending her pedophile boyfriend and 69 too.. she also defended her pedophile brother.. Gaga AP era was because of the music, Nicki is because her behavior so it’s not at all the same.. What popular female rapper has female rapper friends? She brought up Lady Leshur in Bham and other UK rappers in her recent London date She clearly did not think of the fact this was a mentally ill homeless women, she probably wasn't laughing at the fact the women's mentally ill or homeless it was just what the women was saying and yes she defended her brother but I've known many a 14 year old girl with her older sister's ID going into to clubs trying to pull grown men and half of them look older than most of my age friend's do anyway Do you really think she would publicly defend or say things that would tarnish her reputation? She clearly didn't mean these things in that way https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,663 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: Lol what? first off artrave was damn ugly, second why would nicki cancel by choice and come up with the sam excuse that's now had her DRAGGED all over the internet I saw her in Bham and the next day she cancelled ireland cos the boats couldn't get the stage across sea in the weather I am 99% sure her tour directors should have this all down before, I almost feel bad for her because it looks bad on her not anyone else I'm sorry artRAVE sh*ts on any of Nicki's shows, for lack of a better expression. Not saying it's entirely Nicki's fault, but it doesn't take away the unprofessionalism of her team. One or two cancellations is fine, but she did like I dk I lost count. What was the reason behind the Bangkok cancellation again? Maybe next time they should be stricter in hiring the proper staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,663 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Btw before you roast me for my opinion, I do enjoy Nicki's music. I just thought she could be more professional not just in terms of doing shows but also as an artist and human-being? Like you don't have to address every single negative criticism directed towards you, it rubs off on your fans I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bradley said: I'm sorry artRAVE sh*ts on any of Nicki's shows, for lack of a better expression. Not saying it's entirely Nicki's fault, but it doesn't take away the unprofessionalism of her team. One or two cancellations is fine, but she did like I dk I lost count. What was the reason behind the Bangkok cancellation again? Maybe next time they should be stricter in hiring the proper staff. Idk but maybe we should be a bit less critical and consider what other reasons could be? She clearly loves doing her show so she's probbaly thinking the same as what you just said but contracts etc, don't forget Nicki's been messed with many a time in the sense of what happened with Gaga and her management during AP 18 minutes ago, Bradley said: Btw before you roast me for my opinion, I do enjoy Nicki's music. I just thought she could be more professional not just in terms of doing shows but also as an artist and human-being? Like you don't have to address every single negative criticism directed towards you, it rubs off on your fans I guess. No honestly i aint trying to roast anyone I literally agree, I was kinda over her **** until i got more involved again as a fan just before seeing her, then after seeing her and she really gives everything, It just seems like she's misunderstood almost to me https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 15,835 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Bradley said: Btw before you roast me for my opinion, I do enjoy Nicki's music. I just thought she could be more professional not just in terms of doing shows but also as an artist and human-being? Like you don't have to address every single negative criticism directed towards you, it rubs off on your fans I guess. Also, 100% but not everyone has the patience and ability to not get offended as Gaga It seems nicki can be impulsive at defending herself, which always makes her look bad, but if i imagined being in that situation I can't say i wouldn't make that mistake too if that makes sense https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniquecorn 309 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, darkpaw said: I totally agree with this! I can imagine how untalented a person can be if they’re being asked to do as many features as Nicki has. As much as people hate to admit it, female hip hop artists weren’t really being noticed before Nicki. I get that Kim and all these ladies were big back in the day but considering before Nicki was mainstream to now it’s clear that people have taken interest and she played a big part in that! It's because of her pop songs. That's what propelled her to the top. Plus she rode hard the avant-garde band wagon Gaga started. At least that's how she got my attention back in 2010 with Right Thru Me and Super Bass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,663 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: Idk but maybe we should be a bit less critical and consider what other reasons could be? She clearly loves doing her show so she's probbaly thinking the same as what you just said but contracts etc, don't forget Nicki's been messed with many a time in the sense of what happened with Gaga and her management during AP No honestly i aint trying to roast anyone I literally agree, I was kinda over her **** until i got more involved again as a fan just before seeing her, then after seeing her and she really gives everything, It just seems like she's misunderstood almost to me I do agree that the fault is less on her part but more on her production team, like she's an artist, her job is to perform and rehearse, you can't possibly expect her to understand power wattage or stuff like that. I was just trying to make a joke about artRAVE being completed because many people seemed to forget that despite ARTPOP's occasional stumble, she did finish the tour. I also do like how despite being a rapper, she does try to be theatrical and serve visuals where she can. But I still think artRAVE is one helluva tour that is hard to be rivalled by other shows. 53 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: Also, 100% but not everyone has the patience and ability to not get offended as Gaga It seems nicki can be impulsive at defending herself, which always makes her look bad, but if i imagined being in that situation I can't say i wouldn't make that mistake too if that makes sense If you read the comments here, almost everyone respects her as a musician, it is the attitude that some people can't seem to tolerate. I mean it's understandable but being a public figure, she would need to tone down the aggression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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