Ziggy 14,250 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 ok this is great, but serious question: what does this do substantively? It isn't like they have a men's section of the plane or something or gendered bathrooms lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander 14,944 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Wouldnt it make more sense to have the options as “he, she or them”? I don’t fly often so I’m wondering why this is important to state the gender you identify as? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: What is non-binary options? So you can basically identify as anything you like? What's the point? I mean I know transgendered people identify as the opposite of their birth sex, but what's this "other" for? Like what other genders are there? binary: you either identify as a man or a woman if your biological sex is male and you identify as male, you are cis if you biological sex is male and you identify as female, you are trans and vice versa of course non-binary: you identify as both male and female and dismiss the idea of gender being two categories. ---> gender as a spectrum non-binary identifying people have their own pronouns too, but there arent really any that apply for everybody. some like to use "they", others hate that and only want people to use their first name. it depends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,736 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ziggy said: ok this is great, but serious question: what does this do substantively? It isn't like they have a men's section of the plane or something or gendered bathrooms lol yeah I think all they do is greet you sometimes and put mr/ms/mrs/mx on your ticket or whatever. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ziggy said: ok this is great, but serious question: what does this do substantively? It isn't like they have a men's section of the plane or something or gendered bathrooms lol its more of a gesture i believe .. etiquette. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,898 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Great! Costs them absolutely nothing to be inclusive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 67,487 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,736 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, JustAnother said: Maybe don’t assume they’re trying to be rude? Is the idea of asking questions on a forum really that off putting? I mean yeah but also you'd get better information and more information if you look for it. I just felt exhausted seeing these questions that I've answered so many times & know have been answered better than I could ever answer them so many times. If you really wanna learn, don't be a burden on a marginalized community and make them explain it to you when there are resources out there. That said nobody really got annoying in this thread I was just ready for it to happen. If people wanna ask go for it. It's just good to remember self-educating yourself on issues like this is important. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,733 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, jared011 said: Excuse me Mix, could I get you something? Excuse me Mix, there's been a mix up...your suitcase is heading to Austria instead of Australia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,250 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, maxmore said: its more of a gesture i believe .. etiquette. Well that’s nice, a bit of a random change given the notoriety of their airline, but nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, SEANGT said: I mean yeah but also you'd get better information and more information if you look for it. I just felt exhausted seeing these questions that I've answered so many times & know have been answered better than I could ever answer them so many times. If you really wanna learn, don't be a burden on a marginalized community and make them explain it to you when there are resources out there. That said nobody really got annoying in this thread I was just ready for it to happen. If people wanna ask go for it. It's just good to remember self-educating yourself on issues like this is important. i second that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 24,714 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Ziggy said: ok this is great, but serious question: what does this do substantively? It isn't like they have a men's section of the plane or something or gendered bathrooms lol I think it’s probably for documentation and staff to refer to them without Male or female pronouns when they serve or assist them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresco 1,688 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The ticket gender should match the identification gender when TSA checks it. So, I'm wondering if that is the issue they are trying to solve. Idk, I haven't flown United, just guessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,463 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 That is great, although I can see the Mx. being confusing. Still a huge step forward including non-binary options, hopefully more places will start doing the same. See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,463 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Ziggy said: ok this is great, but serious question: what does this do substantively? It isn't like they have a men's section of the plane or something or gendered bathrooms lol 2 hours ago, SEANGT said: yeah I think all they do is greet you sometimes and put mr/ms/mrs/mx on your ticket or whatever. These are good points, and I think inclusivity is important and all gender identities should be recognized and respected, but perhaps a better idea would just be to eliminate using pronouns at all in this specific instance. It’s different than a doctor’s office or a hospital, they just put Mr. or Mrs. or Mx. on the ticket, so why not just get rid of that and just have the person’s name? I do think it would be helpful in a case or knowing how to refer to a person so they are not misgendered. I still am glad to see anyone take a step towards inclusivity, so I’m still glad to see this happen. See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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