Wade Robson and James Safechuck for BB

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7 minutes ago, kyanewest said:

Doesnt make sense with his claim that he  had to be  all his and no one else's

Alot of people forget Michael had his neices and nephews there all the time. Every one who work with Michael said the same thing, Michael wasn't really there at Neverland. Both his ex wife said the same thing. Wade and the other guy time line just doesn't match.

But the timeline of James is the Bad tour where they slept together in the same hotel suite with his parents on a different floor or building (verified). I get the vibe that you haven’t seen Leaving Neverland so how do you know based on what some Jackson associates said? 

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2 minutes ago, Ayria said:

But the timeline of James is the Bad tour where they slept together in the same hotel suite with his parents on a different floor or building (verified). I get the vibe that you haven’t seen Leaving Neverland so how do you know based on what some Jackson associates said? 

Wade also said  that he was abused at the studio 100s of times. Michaels engineers confirmed that he never brought kids to the studio with him.  Wade is an opportunist. His lawsuit was dismissed. He is bankrupt. He has 1.5 billion reasons to lie. He withstood tough cross examination in a 2005 criminal trial that could have triggered ANY repressed memory.

He also added to a book that was written about MJ after his death. After MJ passed away, Robson did a zillion interviews defending MJ. Robson’s story changed when he realized that he was not going to get his dream job in that Cirque du Soleil MJ Tribute Show. Cirque Du Soleil and the Estate of Michael Jackson chose Jamie King over Wade Robson to direct the MJ ONE show. He sued the MJ estate after that. In December 2017 Robson’s lawsuit against Michael Jackson’s Estate was dismissed. Safechuck’s lawsuit was also dismissed within 4 months and his original lawyers Marzano and Glandstein dropped him when they saw there zero chance winning the case. Safechuck alleged molestation AFTER he saw Wade Robson sue for money in 2013. 

Does anyone believe MJ was so dumb he put a victim on the stand so the prosecutors could grill him? For a real victim that would be extremely triggering , why would MJ take that risk when Rosbon's testimony was not even necessary to defeat the Arvizos?

Corey Feldman, Emmanuel Lewis, Macaulay Culkin, Omer Batthi, Alfonso Riberio, Taj Jackson, Taryll Jackson, Sean Lennon, Mark Ronson are all twisted and sick too for consistently speaking highly of MJ and defending his innocence? Some of those boys were abused by other adults they knew the difference between him and MJ.

Take a look at Wade’s actions since he accused MJ like selling his picture on ebay, directing videos to an MJ fans, promoting himself with a video that included MJ moves, liking a post by Brian Friendman where he spoke postively about MJ, teaching his son dance with MJ's philosophy all the while claiming that he is so traumatized the he cannot dance anymore. And keep in mind his mother and brother testified that Robson has financial problems so do the math. 

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46 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Omg but we’re gullible for believing a vetted, acclaimed HBO documentary that’s endorsed by Oprah Winfrey and respected documentarian Louis Theroux. 

VETTED? Haha. Please...

How? That's what Dan Reed wants you to believe. What type of corroboration did they find to any of the claims?

Also how can you vet a claim without asking the accused side if they had any counter-evidence to the claims. You understand what vetting means right? 

And please don't give me that Oprah nonsense. She's a media pundit who's more oriented towards ratings. She's no legal expert.

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17 minutes ago, Ayria said:

But the timeline of James is the Bad tour where they slept together in the same hotel suite with his parents on a different floor or building (verified). I get the vibe that you haven’t seen Leaving Neverland so how do you know based on what some Jackson associates said? 

James was interviewed alone by detectives in 1993 (Santa Maria Sheriff Department) and he said nothing occured between him and MJ.

Before you say he was "lying and covering up" then, why didn't he lie about the kiss then?

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1 minute ago, kyanewest said:

Wade also said  that he was abused at the studio 100s of times. Michaels engineers confirmed that he never brought kids to the studio with him.  Wade is an opportunist. His lawsuit was dismissed. He is bankrupt. He has 1.5 billion reasons to lie. He withstood tough cross examination in a 2005 criminal trial that could have triggered ANY repressed memory.

He also added to a book that was written about MJ after his death. After MJ passed away, Robson did a zillion interviews defending MJ. Robson’s story changed when he realized that he was not going to get his dream job in that Cirque du Soleil MJ Tribute Show. Cirque Du Soleil and the Estate of Michael Jackson chose Jamie King over Wade Robson to direct the MJ ONE show. He sued the MJ estate after that. In December 2017 Robson’s lawsuit against Michael Jackson’s Estate was dismissed. Safechuck’s lawsuit was also dismissed within 4 months and his original lawyers Marzano and Glandstein dropped him when they saw there zero chance winning the case. Safechuck alleged molestation AFTER he saw Wade Robson sue for money in 2013. 

Does anyone believe MJ was so dumb he put a victim on the stand so the prosecutors could grill him? For a real victim that would be extremely triggering , why would MJ take that risk when Rosbon's testimony was not even necessary to defeat the Arvizos?

Corey Feldman, Emmanuel Lewis, Macaulay Culkin, Omer Batthi, Alfonso Riberio, Taj Jackson, Taryll Jackson, Sean Lennon, Mark Ronson are all twisted and sick too for consistently speaking highly of MJ and defending his innocence? Some of those boys were abused by other adults they knew the difference between him and MJ.

Take a look at Wade’s actions since he accused MJ like selling his picture on ebay, directing videos to an MJ fans, promoting himself with a video that included MJ moves, liking a post by Brian Friendman where he spoke postively about MJ, teaching his son dance with MJ's philosophy all the while claiming that he is so traumatized the he cannot dance anymore. And keep in mind his mother and brother testified that Robson has financial problems so do the math. 

When did Wade claim that he was abused in the studio? hundreds of times? That was never claimed in LN from my recollection. He lost his lawsuit against the estate due to statute of limitation issues, and I have never seen an exact dollar amount but even if he sued for 1.5 billion it doesn’t explain why he is still lying since winning another case is probably out of the picture.  

Victims are put on trial for the defense all the time if you research child abuse allegations. Again Wade still didn’t consider what happened to him a bad thing at the time he testified in 2005.

Corey Feldman is no longer supporting MJ and said MJ showed him a book of genitalia and venereal diseases (highly inappropriate). Have you heard Sean Lennon’s song Bubbles Burst? It doesn’t seem to portray Neverland as an innocent place and Mark Ronson even admitted to watching **** with MJ at age 12. The fact that MJ didn’t molest every child he came into contact with doesn’t prove his innocence. What about James Safechuck, Gavin Arvizo, George Terry, Jordan Chandler, and Wade Robson? 

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2 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Victims are put on trial for the defense all the time if you research child abuse allegations. Again Wade still didn’t consider what happened to him a bad thing at the time he testified in 2005.

A grown ass man in his mid twenties didn't know that pedophilia is bad?

Give me more of that nonsense. Or you can always go back to Conway'ing me. That worked better at least.

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4 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said:

James was interviewed alone by detectives in 1993 (Santa Maria Sheriff Department) and he said nothing occured between him and MJ.

Before you say he was "lying and covering up" then, why didn't he lie about the kiss then?

Did James Jr. (accuser) say anything about the kiss claimed by James Sr. (Father of accuser) in the interview? He alleges he did mock interviews to prepare in LN. A 12? Year old covering for their abuser is common if you research child sexual abuse victims. 

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2 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said:

A grown ass man in his mid twenties didn't know that pedophilia is bad?

Give me more of that nonsense. Or you can always go back to Conway'ing me. That worked better at least.

He probably knew but didn’t think of his relationship with Michael as a negative and didn’t want to be known as MJ molestation victim. You really think people NEVER lie to protect their abusers? 

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5 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Did James Jr. (accuser) say anything about the kiss claimed by James Sr. (Father of accuser) in the interview? He alleges he did mock interviews to prepare in LN. A 12? Year old covering for their abuser is common if you research child sexual abuse victims. 

LOL. Time for you to get corrected on this point again:

It's James Jr (accuser) who said MJ kissed him during the interrogation, not the father. The father was later informed by the detectives that's what his son said when he was alone with the detectives in the room where he was being interrogated:

[Ayria 463]

2 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said:

LOL. Time for you to get corrected on this point again:

It's James Jr (accuser) who said MJ kissed him during the interrogation, not the father. The father was later informed by the detectives that's what his son said when he was alone with the detectives in the room where he was being interrogated:

Both claimed it (ew). So MJ held hands, kissed and slept in the same bed as James. 🤮

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4 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Both claimed it (ew). So MJ held hands, kissed and slept in the same bed as James. 🤮

So back to the point that got debunked, before you Conway me again.

You're saying James Safechuck was lying to detectives when he was a kid.

How come he didn't lie about the kiss too which could be trouble for MJ? It seems that you guys cherrypick what you want to believe. If a kid says nothing sexual happened between him and MJ, according to you, they must be coached to lie by their parents, yet somehow they didn't coach him to lie about the kiss huh? which the detectives focused on too?

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17 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Corey Feldman is no longer supporting MJ and said MJ showed him a book of genitalia and venereal diseases (highly inappropriate).

Weird because he used to defend MJ in the past. Actually couple weeks ago

 

17 minutes ago, Ayria said:

Mark Ronson even admitted to watching **** with MJ at age 12.

Source?

17 minutes ago, Ayria said:

What about James Safechuck, Gavin Arvizo, George Terry, Jordan Chandler, and Wade Robson? 

1.Wade Robson is an opportunist.  

2. The trial heard that Gavin's father had persistently begged celebrities for money after Gavin had been diagnosed with cancer. 

3. Terry only came out with his "accusation" post Jordan when concurrently promoting his gay sex phone business. He seems obsessed with celebrities, fame and has flip flopped about Michael a million times. Even taken pictures with people like Debbie Rowe and follows Prince and Paris on twitter. He used to tape all his calls with celebrities... conveniently doesn't tape one with MJ talking about sex to him. Sure. 

4. Chandler himself admitted that he coaxed a ‘confession’ out of his 13 year old son while under the influence of Sodium Amytal (known to create false memories and make users susceptible to suggestion). It was during a ‘routine dental procedure’ that Evan used this drug (was highly unusual for dentistry at the time) and asked his son ‘has Michael Jackson molested you’ to which a sedated Jordan Chandler said ‘yes’.

Proving innocence is essentially proving a negative. It's never easy.

Add that the fact that Jackson was weird as **** and people were ready to believe the story the moment they heard it.

[Ayria 463]

1 minute ago, nicolasrumet said:

So back to the point that got debunked, before you Conway me again.

You're saying James Safechuck was lying to detectives when he was a kid.

How come he didn't lie about the kiss too which could be trouble for MJ? It seems that you guys cherrypick what you want to believe. If a kid says nothing sexual happened between him and MJ, according to you, they must be coached to lie by their parents, yet somehow they didn't coach him to lie about the kiss huh? which the detectives focused on too?

According to who? 

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2 minutes ago, kyanewest said:

Weird because he used to defend MJ in the past. Actually couple weeks ago

 

Source?

Wade Robson is an opportunist.  he trial heard that Gavin's father had persistently begged celebrities for money after Gavin had been diagnosed with cancer. Terry only came out with his "accusation" post Jordan when concurrently promoting his gay sex phone business. He seems obsessed with celebrities, fame and has flip flopped about Michael a million times. Even taken pictures with people like Debbie Rowe and follows Prince and Paris on twitter. He used to tape all his calls with celebrities... conveniently doesn't tape one with MJ talking about sex to him. Sure. Chandler himself admitted that he coaxed a ‘confession’ out of his 13 year old son while under the influence of Sodium Amytal (known to create false memories and make users susceptible to suggestion). It was during a ‘routine dental procedure’ that Evan used this drug (was highly unusual for dentistry at the time) and asked his son ‘has Michael Jackson molested you’ to which a sedated Jordan Chandler said ‘yes’.

 

Nothing about that audio proves extortion. ☠️

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2 minutes ago, Ayria said:

According to who? 

Nice Conway move. Didn't you claim that James Safechuck was lying when he told detectives that nothing sexual occured between him and MJ when he was interrogated alone by detectives in 1993?

Or do you believe his account?