Anti-vax politician hospitalized with chickenpox

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7 hours ago, ThatBish said:

Most people don't get a vaccine though?

It's one of the few I thought people just let kids get. Then you can never catch it again (until maybe when you're really old)

Sadly, I have never had it and now will need to pay to get a vaccine as it can kill you when you're older.

Varicella vaccines are recommended to everyone born after 1980's in the US.

Not sure about other countries, but if you haven't had the chickpox you should 100% be vaccinated.

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7 hours ago, Seeka said:

Well either way Chicken pox is ****ed up. Yeah you can catch it as a kid.

However that just means you have a chance of getting shingles as you get older. And shingles can f*uck you up. 

Chicken pox is weird. 

Yeah ur body doesn't actually get rid of it all... It stays dormant in your system. Chicken pox are in the same family as the herpes virus except the body is better at suppressing it and u don't typically get relapses like u do with herpes... Except when ur older and have weaker immune system sometimes u can get a relapse of the pox virus but worse than when u were a kid (hence, shingles)

 

That's most viruses tho... Our bodies don't get rid of viruses entirely like we do bacteria because viruses are very good at hiding and getting every single one is nearly impossible

 

The thing tho is that once we build an immunity, most viruses can exist in your body in small amounts and it never bothers u again... They either stay dormant or if they reactive your immune system starts fighting it immediately again and it never gives u problems or symptoms after the first time

 

Some tougher viruses are a different story and u can have relapses. That why chicken pox can come back as shingles when your older or herpes in some ppl keeps coming back every so often because those viruses are harder to keep dormant forever or keep under control

 

The worst viruses like hepatitis or HIV without medical intervention even kill u

 

But yeah... 90% more of viral infections don't bother you again after getting you sick the first time, but many ppl don't know that most viruses stay in your system once your infected even if you never show symptoms from that same viral infection ever again

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7 hours ago, ThatBish said:

Most people don't get a vaccine though?

It's one of the few I thought people just let kids get. Then you can never catch it again (until maybe when you're really old)

Sadly, I have never had it and now will need to pay to get a vaccine as it can kill you when you're older.

Um you don’t want to get chickenpox, it leads to shingles in adulthood 

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Just now, Possibly Maybe said:

Um you don’t want to get chickenpox, it leads to shingles in adulthood 

CAN lead to shingles in adulthood. Not everyone gets it

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41 minutes ago, uo111 said:

Varicella vaccines are recommended to everyone born after 1980's in the US.

Not sure about other countries, but if you haven't had the chickpox you should 100% be vaccinated.

 

46 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Wow where? 

In the US virtually all kids get the vaccine. 

I was born in 1995 and never had chicken pox

This is literally a summary of why it's not done here. Like only in special circumstances. This is the National Health Service (our health care system run by the Government) and they mention how the vaccination actually makes it worse.

"If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced, people would not catch chickenpox as children because the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated.

This would leave unvaccinated children susceptible to contracting chickenpox as adults, when they are more likely to get a more serious infection, or in pregnancy, where there is a risk of the infection harming the baby."

"Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult – for example, through contact with infected children – boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur."

"The chickenpox vaccine is used to immunise people who may pass the infection on to someone who is at risk of serious complications from chickenpox.

+ The vaccine may be given on the NHS to:

-healthcare workers who are not immune to chickenpox

-people in close contact with someone who has a weakened immune system.

+ In this way, the chickenpox vaccine protects people at risk who are unable to themselves be vaccinated against chickenpox, such as:

-pregnant women

-people who have weakened immune systems – for example, from HIV and AIDS or through treatments such as chemotherapy"

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/why-are-children-in-the-uk-not-vaccinated-against-chickenpox/

 

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2 hours ago, Anveeroy said:

 

Ironically,  I live in a country called ’Bangladesh’ which other supreme countries call us ’Third World Country’ but even the illiterate people know about Chicken Pox vaccination. I got the vaccination when I was a child and also once I had chicken pox. 

Interestingly the debate of vaccination in the states is really fascinating in the modern age. 🌸

So you got a vaccination but still got the virus? Then you got a vaccination when you were sick? 

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32 minutes ago, ThatBish said:

 

This is literally a summary of why it's not done here. Like only in special circumstances. This is the National Health Service (our health care system run by the Government) and they mention how the vaccination actually makes it worse.

"If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced, people would not catch chickenpox as children because the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated.

This would leave unvaccinated children susceptible to contracting chickenpox as adults, when they are more likely to get a more serious infection, or in pregnancy, where there is a risk of the infection harming the baby."

"Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult – for example, through contact with infected children – boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur."

"The chickenpox vaccine is used to immunise people who may pass the infection on to someone who is at risk of serious complications from chickenpox.

+ The vaccine may be given on the NHS to:

-healthcare workers who are not immune to chickenpox

-people in close contact with someone who has a weakened immune system.

+ In this way, the chickenpox vaccine protects people at risk who are unable to themselves be vaccinated against chickenpox, such as:

-pregnant women

-people who have weakened immune systems – for example, from HIV and AIDS or through treatments such as chemotherapy"

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/why-are-children-in-the-uk-not-vaccinated-against-chickenpox/

 

I’ve read about this argument. We’ll see what happens in 50 years lol. 

Also good to know if ever traveling to the UK with small children. 

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37 minutes ago, Economy said:

CAN lead to shingles in adulthood. Not everyone gets it

Half of people in their 80’s have gotten it, I think. 

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There is also a Shingles vaccine for older people in the US. 

There is no reason to not vaccinate in the US. 

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44 minutes ago, ThatBish said:

 

This is literally a summary of why it's not done here. Like only in special circumstances. This is the National Health Service (our health care system run by the Government) and they mention how the vaccination actually makes it worse.

"If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced, people would not catch chickenpox as children because the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated.

This would leave unvaccinated children susceptible to contracting chickenpox as adults, when they are more likely to get a more serious infection, or in pregnancy, where there is a risk of the infection harming the baby."

"Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult – for example, through contact with infected children – boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur."

"The chickenpox vaccine is used to immunise people who may pass the infection on to someone who is at risk of serious complications from chickenpox.

+ The vaccine may be given on the NHS to:

-healthcare workers who are not immune to chickenpox

-people in close contact with someone who has a weakened immune system.

+ In this way, the chickenpox vaccine protects people at risk who are unable to themselves be vaccinated against chickenpox, such as:

-pregnant women

-people who have weakened immune systems – for example, from HIV and AIDS or through treatments such as chemotherapy"

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/why-are-children-in-the-uk-not-vaccinated-against-chickenpox/

 

That's because the UK pays for all of them and they don't want to pay for them. Individual families pay for it in the US so we aren't as price sensitive (though maybe we should be). I mean, chicken pox certainly isn't the most deadly disease for children so I can understand that.

But if you are an adult and haven't had it, you should get vaccinated. Governments and health plans make the assumption that everyone has had the chicken pox when they were young. Once you get to like 30 and haven't had it, I wouldn't take my chances, since it will just get worse and worse as you age.

PS: Vaccines "making it worse" is a hypothetical scenario they are using to justify not vaccinating, but with a population of 330 million, the US pretty much disproves that.

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Although shingles is related to chickenpox — the varicella zoster virus causes both — experts say the rise in shingles is not linked with the use of the chickenpox vaccine.

In fact, children who receive a chickenpox vaccination have a much lower risk of getting shingles later in life than those who are not immunized, said Dr. William Schaffner, doctor of preventative medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, and a leading infectious disease expert.

Although chickenpox vaccines do contain a weakened version of the live virus, which can reactivate later in life and cause shingles, this is very rare, he said. "Nearly 99 percent of children who receive the vaccine will not get chickenpoxat all," Schaffner told Live Science. "The remaining 1 percent who do get it will get a much milder version of it. Therefore, a vast majority of people receiving the immunization will not develop shingles later in life."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/45804-chickenpox-vaccine-cause-shingles.html

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I remember when I got kitchenpox as a kid, I loved it so much, I was sad when they were gone

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Adult onset chickenpox is much more severe than childhood chickenpox. It can be deadly for adults. It's way more than just itchy bumps. And it can come back again and again as shingles. These "freedumb" preaching politicians don't recognize how dangerous the fire they're playing with is.

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1 hour ago, Alexander Levi said:

So you got a vaccination but still got the virus? Then you got a vaccination when you were sick? 

So I talked to my mom and she said I got the vaccination but once I had pox, but it wasn't so serious. It could have been worse without vaccination.