boniva4lyfe 0 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Her fake team/friends are all gone, interscope seems to supporter her, 2014 is going to be a blast believe me I'M. SO. EXCITED. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 4,995 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 ....is she redoing it then and taking her time?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 You make good points, but I disagree with you in the collaborations part. I truly feel like Gaga wanted to work with people like R. Kelly, Too Short, ect. I don't think Gaga would ever collaborate with someone she did not like or someone that wouldn't add anythng to her music. I may be reaching, but... It sounds like she was pissed at Troy (and others?) for not being there for her as a friend when she needed support (injury etc), but instead demanded more from her (like re-write ARTPOP to be more commercial) and pushed her to hurry it up as he/they wanted the album out ASAP. Resulting in them interfering with the creative process to quickly make it GP appealing - i.e. chucking Too $hort/Twista/T.I onto an urban track, getting RedOne back to finish Gypsy (remember that was unfinished and uncertain till quite soon before release), getting her to pick DWUW back off the cutting room floor and add R.Kelly, and probably getting her to work with Will.i.Am. She resented all that, but creatively liked the output enough to go along with it and got psyched by the prospect of slaying with all this supposed GP-friendly stuff. Then he/they rushed her into making the video and getting ready to debut/release for the VMAs, perhaps encouraging her to compete with Katy to bulldoze the competition (which didn't work). Then came the DWUW/Venus debacle where she said the label didn't force her, but didn't say her management didn't. It was obvious that they jumped at DWUW because they thought they had a smash on their hands. She probably went along with it for that reason, but she clearly had some resentment judging by the constant Venus performances and lack of DWUW pushing. It probably climaxed when Troy and her fought about the state of the era. She felt she was losing creative control (which would explain her going so extreme with a lot of the visuals - which she DID have control over) and he wanted her to follow his lead for optimum success (only after the $$$ as per her comments). He may have even thrown ARTPOP under the bus as sub-par despite his interfering and she got even more pissed off that she had tried to accommodate but it/she wasn't good enough (as per her recent message). They parted ways (originally we thought she fired him, but maybe he walked?) and left her in the lurch about to release an album. The era then went **** up because she and her inner circle tried to organise the promotion schedule et all, whilst she also was trying to sort out the creative. I feel it would explain why she was and is so obsessed with Venus because I think it goes beyond the song and is almost entirely about her proving that she can do it on her own using a song that she both wrote and produced. She wants to make it a success to show Troy that she is self-made. The DWUW video was probably rushed and the result just isn't good. She's left with a campaign in pieces and has since been trying to put it all back together and get a game plan in motion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 95,686 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I may be reaching, but... It sounds like she was pissed at Troy (and others?) for not being there for her as a friend when she needed support (injury etc), but instead demanded more from her (like re-write ARTPOP to be more commercial) and pushed her to hurry it up as he/they wanted the album out ASAP. Resulting in them interfering with the creative process to quickly make it GP appealing - i.e. chucking Too $hort/Twista/T.I onto an urban track, getting RedOne back to finish Gypsy (remember that was unfinished and uncertain till quite soon before release), getting her to pick DWUW back off the cutting room floor and add R.Kelly, and probably getting her to work with Will.i.Am. She resented all that, but creatively liked the output enough to go along with it and got psyched by the prospect of slaying with all this supposed GP-friendly stuff. Then he/they rushed her into making the video and getting ready to debut/release for the VMAs, perhaps encouraging her to compete with Katy to bulldoze the competition (which didn't work). Then came the DWUW/Venus debacle where she said the label didn't force her, but didn't say her management didn't. It was obvious that they jumped at DWUW because they thought they had a smash on their hands. She probably went along with it for that reason, but she clearly had some resentment judging by the constant Venus performances and lack of DWUW pushing. It probably climaxed when Troy and her fought about the state of the era. She felt she was losing creative control (which would explain her going so extreme with a lot of the visuals - which she DID have control over) and he wanted her to follow his lead for optimum success (only after the $$$ as per her comments). He may have even thrown ARTPOP under the bus as sub-par despite his interfering and she got even more pissed off that she had tried to accommodate but it/she wasn't good enough (as per her recent message). They parted ways (originally we thought she fired him, but maybe he walked?) and left her in the lurch about to release an album. The era then went **** up because she and her inner circle tried to organise the promotion schedule et all, whilst she also was trying to sort out the creative. I feel it would explain why she was and is so obsessed with Venus because I think it goes beyond the song and is almost entirely about her proving that she can do it on her own using a song that she both wrote and produced. She wants to make it a success to show Troy that she is self-made. The DWUW video was probably rushed and the result just isn't good. She's left with a campaign in pieces and has since been trying to put it all back together and get a game plan in motion. You are (most likely ) so right :applause: If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 7,995 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 OMG Do you think something happened between her and Terry?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I may be reaching, but... It sounds like she was pissed at Troy (and others?) for not being there for her as a friend when she needed support (injury etc), but instead demanded more from her (like re-write ARTPOP to be more commercial) and pushed her to hurry it up as he/they wanted the album out ASAP. Resulting in them interfering with the creative process to quickly make it GP appealing - i.e. chucking Too $hort/Twista/T.I onto an urban track, getting RedOne back to finish Gypsy (remember that was unfinished and uncertain till quite soon before release), getting her to pick DWUW back off the cutting room floor and add R.Kelly, and probably getting her to work with Will.i.Am. She resented all that, but creatively liked the output enough to go along with it and got psyched by the prospect of slaying with all this supposed GP-friendly stuff. Then he/they rushed her into making the video and getting ready to debut/release for the VMAs, perhaps encouraging her to compete with Katy to bulldoze the competition (which didn't work). Then came the DWUW/Venus debacle where she said the label didn't force her, but didn't say her management didn't. It was obvious that they jumped at DWUW because they thought they had a smash on their hands. She probably went along with it for that reason, but she clearly had some resentment judging by the constant Venus performances and lack of DWUW pushing. It probably climaxed when Troy and her fought about the state of the era. She felt she was losing creative control (which would explain her going so extreme with a lot of the visuals - which she DID have control over) and he wanted her to follow his lead for optimum success (only after the $$$ as per her comments). He may have even thrown ARTPOP under the bus as sub-par despite his interfering and she got even more pissed off that she had tried to accommodate but it/she wasn't good enough (as per her recent message). They parted ways (originally we thought she fired him, but maybe he walked?) and left her in the lurch about to release an album. The era then went **** up because she and her inner circle tried to organise the promotion schedule et all, whilst she also was trying to sort out the creative. I feel it would explain why she was and is so obsessed with Venus because I think it goes beyond the song and is almost entirely about her proving that she can do it on her own using a song that she both wrote and produced. She wants to make it a success to show Troy that she is self-made. The DWUW video was probably rushed and the result just isn't good. She's left with a campaign in pieces and has since been trying to put it all back together and get a game plan in motion. While likely a bit too elaborate to be true, I wouldn't doubt if it went something this way. idek 3 points in and ready for more Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,851 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I feel so sad for her and hate how the ARTPOP era has gotten off on such a messy beginning. Hopefully things will improve over the next few months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMarty 96 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Okie dokie... so we're getting the MV... next week? February? 2016? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,679 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Well, I guess she will rest during the next two months at least, and then comeback full (I hope) force to 'start' the ARTPOP era once again with Venus, as it was meant to be the first single since the beginning. Kindness rules all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 5 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Awww bless her heart. :heart: I'm glad she came right out with the truth of the situation since Monsters had taken their own theories and created wildfires with them. I can't imagine the pressure of being such a huge star and having things hit a wall just as your album is coming out. Although I'm not much for the album, I do love Gaga and want only the best for her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 12,901 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm glad she has addressed the situation, now I want her to pick herself up and bring it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeofTeeth 1,934 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm really glad she cleaned up all the messy rumors. I really hope she gets back on track with her career and emotions soon because I'm a little worried about her... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) I wish I knew how to make videos and music cause I would try to help. Since I can't , I will just offer Little Monster Support and hope for the best .... Edited January 6, 2014 by Woolfsmck like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 What does she mean she couldnt manage the damage on her own? Is she talking about turning to d--gs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Im glad she's explained that and cleared a few things up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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