Leaving Neverland draws huge audience for HBO

[Didymus 34,380]

8 minutes ago, Uniquecorn said:

Considering the timing (The massive public attention to documentaries regarding R Kelly), I think HBO releasing this is very very very very very much self-serving. Banking on the recent R.Kelly case and the self-righteous holier-than-thou stoning mentality of people today. 

Wouldn't even want to waste more time talking about that documentary, it is obviously rigged with inconsistencies and theories to further the story line they wish to portray to milk more cash.  

Imagine analysing Gaga's career this way

There wouldn't be any fans left.

[Didymus 34,380]

11 hours ago, LuvitLevit said:

I find it odd how he suddenly "remembered" after the birth of his son that Michael inappropriately touched him.

 

9 hours ago, Adakam said:

Thats what I just dont buy, the guy was part of all the accusations and trials and he was asked with full details if MJ did anything to him. Its impossible to me that he suddenly changed his mind.

And yet every psychologist and psychiatrist or expert on child abuse will tell you this is absolutely standard

It's not about "remembering", it's about realizing it's abuse and not something else. Education about how child grooming works is key here. And I'm glad the documentary is shedding more light on it as it's desperately needed today.

[Uniquecorn 309]

9 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Imagine analysing Gaga's career this way

There wouldn't be any fans left.

That comparison is hilarious.

Milking cash to the detriment of others and to stir up the mob is very much different from Lady Gaga, the brand, being marketed to us during strategic and peak periods. 

[David Ward 9,398]

 

If you watch the entire 4 hour documentary, you can clearly tell they are actual victims. Most of you need to ask yourself, if this was a regular every day individual, and he looked the way Michael Jackson did (like he has a plastic surgery addiction) and he was sleeping every night with a young child in his bed that was not his own son (even that is weird) would this not scream “PEDOPHILE”?

The reason why the world forgives him is because he has manipulated the public into believing it is okay because he claimed that he was robbed a childhood because of his abusive father. THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED WITH LITTLE BOYS! There is no excuse for sleeping in the same bed with young boys. Not a single one. Seriously.

Also, he obviously has some serious mental issues to have had all the plastic surgery he had done to him. No one has that much plastic surgery unless they have a huge piece of themselves that they are trying to hide from the world.

I loved MJ. I loved his music and all things about him. I don’t want him to be a pedophile, but he is. There’s no denying it. It’s common sense at this point.

The man was a monster and the only reason you don’t see it is because you don’t want to, because Michael Jackson designed it that way. He was a master manipulator and he fooled the world. He never once healed it.

 

[Didymus 34,380]

53 minutes ago, Uniquecorn said:

That comparison is hilarious.

Milking cash to the detriment of others and to stir up the mob is very much different from Lady Gaga, the brand, being marketed to us during strategic and peak periods. 

I’m not comparing the two, I’m just saying it’s crazy how people are deliberately trying as hard as they can to believe that everything about that documentary and the accusers is rotten, fraudulent and insincere and present it as mere common sense 

If we analysed everything that way, my god. Why instantly assume the worst?

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5 hours ago, Adakam said:

And for every person that accused him, theres like 20 close to him defending him and calling out the bs. Not to mention all the cases that were torn down or admitted to be fake, like the employees or Janet herself.

 

Oh Janet too cause I was talking about Latoya she also had to take what she said about Michael she said it was cause of her husband but im sure she had her suspicions on her brother, after recieving all the backlash she got I bet she felt forced to take back her words after some time. 

[PunkTheFunk 124,530]

4 hours ago, Acsnpdx8 said:

What I don't get is we are living in a culture now where we are supposed to believe victims, but when it's MJ they say they're lying? 

(I've thought about the difficult position Gaga is in since she's spoken so openly about sexual assualt but also has so many items of MJ's wardrobe )

These same people will cry "#BelieveKesha!!! Cancel Dr Puke!!!" after hearing one victim's account, but somehow ignore a mountain of evidence and multiple accusers when it's MJ.

[PunkTheFunk 124,530]

1 hour ago, David Ward said:

 

If you watch the entire 4 hour documentary, you can clearly tell they are actual victims. Most of you need to ask yourself, if this was a regular every day individual, and he looked the way Michael Jackson did (like he has a plastic surgery addiction) and he was sleeping every night with a young child in his bed that was not his own son (even that is weird) would this not scream “PEDOPHILE”?

The reason why the world forgives him is because he has manipulated the public into believing it is okay because he claimed that he was robbed a childhood because of his abusive father. THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED WITH LITTLE BOYS! There is no excuse for sleeping in the same bed with young boys. Not a single one. Seriously.

Also, he obviously has some serious mental issues to have had all the plastic surgery he had done to him. No one has that much plastic surgery unless they have a huge piece of themselves that they are trying to hide from the world.

I loved MJ. I loved his music and all things about him. I don’t want him to be a pedophile, but he is. There’s no denying it. It’s common sense at this point.

The man was a monster and the only reason you don’t see it is because you don’t want to, because Michael Jackson designed it that way. He was a master manipulator and he fooled the world. He never once healed it.

 

THANK YOU

[Andy McQueen 4,484]

1 hour ago, David Ward said:

 

If you watch the entire 4 hour documentary, you can clearly tell they are actual victims. Most of you need to ask yourself, if this was a regular every day individual, and he looked the way Michael Jackson did (like he has a plastic surgery addiction) and he was sleeping every night with a young child in his bed that was not his own son (even that is weird) would this not scream “PEDOPHILE”?

The reason why the world forgives him is because he has manipulated the public into believing it is okay because he claimed that he was robbed a childhood because of his abusive father. THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED WITH LITTLE BOYS! There is no excuse for sleeping in the same bed with young boys. Not a single one. Seriously.

Also, he obviously has some serious mental issues to have had all the plastic surgery he had done to him. No one has that much plastic surgery unless they have a huge piece of themselves that they are trying to hide from the world.

I loved MJ. I loved his music and all things about him. I don’t want him to be a pedophile, but he is. There’s no denying it. It’s common sense at this point.

The man was a monster and the only reason you don’t see it is because you don’t want to, because Michael Jackson designed it that way. He was a master manipulator and he fooled the world. He never once healed it.

 

Thanks! Agree 100%.

In fact, even his sister Latoya Jackson confirmed in 1993 (!!!) that she strongly believes her brother is a pedophile:

 

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15 hours ago, Ryusei said:

 

No, anyone who believes the whole spiel of: he was so innocent and did so much good (great front for nobody being suspicious of you dont you think?) and he was like a child trapped in an adult's body excuse doesnt have much rational thought in this matter in my book. Again even if no sexual assault ever occurred it's still f*cked up to have little boys with you at all times and then dropping them like a hot potato the moment some... idek younger and cuter boy comes along???? Highly questionable as well. And any other human being would be heavily judged and immediately labeled a pedophile. if they did what he did. 

I think both accusing him blindly and defending him is wrong because we simply don't know the truth, we can make ourselves a picture of both sides and then have a tendence towards which we lean but we do not know. I havent ever in any of those threads said he's flat out guilty I just think his behavior is highly questionable. He had access to so many people essentially I'm sure there were some other "child-like" adults in the world whom he could have been friends with but he chose little boys, not girls and boys, all his special friends were boys. Ok not weird at all...

This this and this.

”he was a child himself so it’s okay”. It’s the most faulty argument ever and yet some people think it excuses all of the proven weird behaviour he exhibited.  It’s not normal for a strange man to sleep with children. I don’t care what he was mentally going through, that’s gross, and any other person would be called a pedo like you said. It’s disgusts me that, only due to the fact he made brilliant music, he is being excused for this. 

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26 minutes ago, Andy McQueen said:

Thanks! Agree 100%.

In fact, even his sister Latoya Jackson confirmed in 1993 (!!!) that she strongly believes her brother is a pedophile:

 

Do some research and stop spreading this propaganda that only helps the case that it was a smear campaign against MJ. Latoya admitted that everything she said was false and that her husband forced her to say all those things. She retracted every single statement.

Seriously, if you are against MJ on this issue, stop spreading literal fake news, do your research. Her life was a complete torture at that moment.

[Didymus 34,380]

11 minutes ago, Adakam said:

Do some research and stop spreading this propaganda that only helps the case that it was a smear campaign against MJ. Latoya admitted that everything she said was false and that her husband forced her to say all those things. She retracted every single statement.

Seriously, if you are against MJ on this issue, stop spreading literal fake news, do your research. Her life was a complete torture at that moment. 

Thanks, I'm also a bit troubled by her statements resurfacing everywhere now. People are looking for incriminating stuff I guess, but yeah, to post this without noting (like most news sources are doing, luckily, though the majority of readers will obviously not catch that) that she retracted her statements is really problematic and it's actually hurting the cause of people defending Wade and James

[Miracle 14,068]

16 hours ago, misunderstood said:

Pressed that people are actually using their brains and not blindly believing victims?

Besides the documentary, there's a TON of hard facts which incriminate MJ and definitely put him as a child abuser. He slept with kids in front of ****ographic art, owned an insane amount of pedo literature, had searched teen **** web pages online. Even if they were exaggerating their stories, you can't ignore the FBI undisclosed documents.

The job of this documentary was to give light to the lives of victims of child abuse and their families and present MJ as what he is: not only a pedophile (what he obviously was, but pedophiles can control their impulses) but a child abuser. 

MJ fans love ignoring the EVIDENCE which it's more than enough for the media and GP to label MJ as a child abuser (not a court at the time though) but always rely on telling how "opportunist" the victims are, as if that would change the FACTS. 

[Married the Night 3,955]

Something was off with him. His love and attraction to boys wasn’t right. I believe the victims. 

[Chromatislaps 34,851]

Brandi Jackson, MJ's niece has some tea on Wade Robson, she was Wade's girlfriend, also during the alleged period of "molestation". Interesting interview. I hope you guys will listen in, because the media will never admit the story of Wade is fishy.