Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Whispering said: Link won’t work. Many people are under the impression that The Huffington Post is some form of newspaper or news publication. In fact, The Huffington Post is a news aggregation and blog system. The content published on The Huffington Post includes articles by bloggers, celebrities and simply those with an opinion to share. If MJ had been found in possession of child p***, that count would have been put before him in court, but it wasn't. The same books MJ had can also be found in the library at Congress. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Andy McQueen said: https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ MJ facts is website literally made by the prosecution to spread false information about MJ. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, monster4life231 said: MJ facts is website literally made by the prosecution to spread false information about MJ. Sure, Jan. But the dozen of websites like "LeavingNeverlandFacts" and "MichaelJacksonAllegations" who spred misinformation, lies and half-truths all the time are reliable because they are made by hardcore fans, right? And let me guess: You still haven't watched the documentary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Andy McQueen said: https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ Thank you! This is a very informative resource. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,359 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I honestly don’t know which is worse! A grown man(regardless of a Peter Pan Complex) “sleeping” in the same bed with other people’s children & possibly doing something inappropriate with them! ....Or the parents(despite being allegedly groomed by the person in question) letting their children “sleep” in the same bed with an unrelated grown man!!! SMFH 😖 Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: I honestly don’t know which is worse! A grown man(regardless of a Peter Pan Complex) “sleeping” in the same bed with other people’s children & possibly doing something inappropriate with them! ....Or the parents(despite being allegedly groomed by the person in question) letting their children “sleep” in the same bed with an unrelated grown man!!! SMFH 😖 Agree. The parents were terrible naive... I guess they really believed Michael all along and never suspected anything. (Grooming, manipulation...) And in some sort of way they are also very selfish. "My boys are close friends with the most famous person on earth, Michael Jackson, yeah".... Of course he gave them money and treats etc. ... I sort of also don't believe the one mother who said she danced when she found out Michael died -- because Wade Robson didn't come out with the abuse yet, but she still believed the abuse rumors of other children? Why the heck did she still let Wade visit him then? She must have thought someting... So to me it seems maybe she didn't really know but now claims she danced while in truth she was a MJ stan just like her son and the others? It's weird. In the documentary it seemed to me they tried to apologize afterwards, as if the situation would make it any better when she is saying she danced when his death was announced. I believe the victims but their mothers make me suspicious -- I can't imagine if I was a parent and I would be so blind to let my son sleep with a grown-up man in the same bed for several years? It's just f*cked up, even if he didn't abuse them and they are lying, which is highly unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,359 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Andy McQueen said: Agree. The parents were terrible naive... I guess they really believed Michael all along and never suspected anything. (Grooming, manipulation...) And in some sort of way they are also very selfish. "My boys are close friends with the most famous person on earth, Michael Jackson, yeah".... Of course he gave them money and treats etc. ... I sort of also don't believe the one mother who said she danced when she found out Michael died -- because Wade Robson didn't come out with the abuse yet, but she still believed the abuse rumors of other children? Why the heck did she still let Wade visit him then? She must have thought someting... So to me it seems maybe she didn't really know but now claims she danced while in truth she was a MJ stan just like her son and the others? It's weird. In the documentary it seemed to me they tried to apologize afterwards, as if the situation would make it any better when she is saying she danced when his death was announced. I believe the victims but their mothers make me suspicious -- I can't imagine if I was a parent and I would be so blind to let my son sleep with a grown-up man in the same bed for several years? It's just f*cked up, even if he didn't abuse them and they are lying, which is highly unlikely. What’s even more crazy is the one mom who said she always slept in the other room at his hideout place, while her son “slept” with Michael - SMH! Then she said Michael asked her could her son stay with him for a year?! And when she said no, he told her I always get my way. That would have been enough for me right there! SMDH Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Andy McQueen said: https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ Did you try to read this? I am really trying to read it with an open mind but I keep finding inconsistencies and ridiculous claims. First, settling a case doesn't mean the defendant is guilty. Sometimes when you're a big star or a big company, it's better to settle cases just to avoid the negative press that may come from it, even if you are likely to win. As someone who's studying law I know how common that is. And then this example of the bedroom. "Bashir: “But is it really appropriate for a 44-year-old man to share a bedroom with a child that is not related to him at all?” Jackson: “That’s a beautiful thing.” He uses this interview to "prove" that MJ shared a bed with children "in his own words" when the wording couldn't be more clear that it was bedroom, not the bed and that he slept on the floor. Then he went on to say oh because MJ was using vague terms like "other people" it means that he's lying. What type of **** is this lol? It's not really debunking, it's more of analyzing words, twisting them and interpreting them in the way that is most convenient to the writer. Having seen claims and evidence by both sides, I still continue to believe that MJ is more likely than not to be innocent. When you are claiming sexual abuse only because you are dropped from a MJ's show by his estate, and are suing for 100M$, people have the right to scrutinize your claims and try to determine whether there's an underlying financial motive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo 3,860 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Anyone who thinks Michael is innocent is an idiot imo www.youtube.com/jmremixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 probably gonna be dragged for filth but i can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 3:25 PM, darkpaw said: There’s literally no evidence of him being a pedo and now we’re gonna start believing these people deciding to start talking years after this guy is dead and not able to defend himself? It’s disgraceful! I think it’s time GGD members start researching and stop jumping on every band wagon cuz now you all just seem VERY IGNORANT & IMMATURE! They spoke up and were publicly crucified. They lost their trial, so they have absolutely nothing to gain from this. Can you at least for a second try and picture if what they are saying it true? I hope you would feel bad for what you just said. OT: Imo too many people in this thread are hypocrites. There isn’t any evidence that Kesha was sexually assaulted, or that Gaga was sexually assaulted, etc. But you’re all so quick to come to their defence and shame any person who says otherwise. If you are gonna be that way for them, then you can’t act different in this situation. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoburrrito 641 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Almost everyone I talk to is skeptical about the documentary. I’m inclined to believe it though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,356 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 MJ is THE pop icon. I can't with this tarnishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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