SKANK 14,288 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 The crowds in front of the Mona Lisa are gonna be real thin when twitter finds out what da Vinci was into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Whispering said: Then they have problems, sorry. If your adult friends are having random second graders over for sleepovers and calling them every da6 on the phone, they have some serious issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Whispering said: Then they have problems, sorry. If your adult friends are having random second graders over for sleepovers and calling them every da6 on the phone, they have some serious issues. I never said that they slept over with them.What I meant is that for example in my one comment from earlier,I was talking about a specific friend who had a pretty ****ed up childhood.He has conversed with me regarding how much it sucks basically having a next to absent childhood.Of course its not like MJ,but he said that sometimes he can relate to children and finds a kind of peace or comfort in hanging with them.He said its like experiencing something he never really had except for what he saw in films,or heard about from friends etc.Now of course he has some major ptsd and depression,among other issues but he definitely isn't looking to have sex with kids.My point is just because someone is hanging out with children or finds a type of solace or is more comfortable with them sometimes does not mean that they are a pedo.Nor do I agree with sleeping with another child,I just wouldn't do it.However MJ was obviously mentally and emotionally stunted in ways,so especially after meeting said friend and learning about his experience it makes sense imo.Michael obviously had issues and was a child in mans body in some ways,but nothing factually shows him wanting to harm children or actually doing said act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Jock 993 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Iâm sure MJ doesnât care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbri 1,369 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Not separating the artist from the art is a slippery slope (I know it's difficult). But with this rate, we're not going to have any art left. I say this with regards to all the artists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
six 43 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, August3 said: I would actually. I know it controversial, but I still listen to some of his music. That is controversial. I understand the logic behind separating the art from the artists, but it's a bit hard when music comes from personal experience. Like I could not listen to music from him without feeling uncomfortable knowing who/what its about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: When discussing about about Dr Luke I noticed there was an almost unanimous response that a victim should always be trusted. What happened now? What is different? For the record, I'm one of the ones that believes one deserves the benefit of the doubt. Gaga is. Some people here think they have to follow Gaga to hell if it's needed. People should understand that it's possible to like a person in some aspects and dislike it in others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, OBEY said: "He slept in his bed with children on tour, there's NO EVIDENCE HE RAPED THEM". yeah we donât know if he did raped them, but you can't deny that it's a very strange situation. Who were that kids?  Was he paying their dads and moms to have the kids sleep with him? where they related to him somehow? That's fvcked up! and I call it fake tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkusan 799 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Sistren said: But are we 100% sure that the child abuse thing is true? None of us can be. All we can do is listen to the alleged victims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Akiki said: Who were that kids?  Was he paying their dads and moms to have the kids sleep with him? where they related to him somehow? That's fvcked up! and I call it fake tbh Michael himself admitted sharing his bed with little boys, the public knows it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkusan 799 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Itâs the classic issue of âoh but the victims only came out decades later.. why didnât they come out earlier?â.. also, they adamantly denied that they were abused by MJ initially in trial, so understandably this thing has become a huge f*cking mess. I was thinking about how Gaga would view this. She has been a huge supporter and fan of MJ (she purchased a whole bunch of clothes and iconic costumes years ago!)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, OBEY said: Michael himself admitted sharing his bed with little boys, the public knows it too. EW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I have no idea what to make of this situatuon. I just hope that everyone involved finds peace. While I feel for alleged victims, it's just such a unique situation with a man who probably wasn't quite right himself. Innocence misinterpretted as malice or genuinely predatory behaviour, it's an unfortunate cycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reditutto 112 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Miracle said: Bye pedo **** you. He never molested a child, you trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, OBEY said: Michael himself admitted sharing his bed with little boys, the public knows it too. Â FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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