Kimblue 7,334 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 hours ago, metalguru said: yeah because it is in her personality gaga is someone else, someone little more out there, little more out of context, a little out of sync. all these established humble diva actress speeches are not really represent her story of success nor her identity. it looks flat and one dimensional. It adds to the danger of Gaga is being her own parody. None of her speeches moved me or something. They are all very didactic. It keeps happening again and again so I really think that it is some sort of a persona but a wrongly constructed one. I want her to get her well deserved award loud and proud with all of her sincerity. A moment of "glory", a spontaneous moment of authenticity, a smile, a joke, something, but not God and tears and didactic life lessons. If you don’t think she believes in God, cries easily, or preaches on life lessons is who Gaga is then you haven’t been paying attention to the last 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,850 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 hours ago, LilyLark said: I mean, she's still winning tho so while it bugs some it's obviously not that big of a factor for BOS. I know speeches matter (they shouldn't), at least when it comes to women because Rami should be getting dragged to hell for his invoking Freddie at every turn, but I don't think it will keep her from winning BOS even though I did worry about it in the beginning. But yes, as someone who has followed this over the years they are petty AF. I don't think Bradley's press/campaigning has been that poor, but if you read THR and follow film twitter people think it's part of the reason he's behind Rami for Best Actor—not talent, just that he sucks at campaigning and put some people off for Best Actor. I would love to know what Bradley supposedly did wrong during promotion?? Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,850 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 hours ago, LilyLark said: Yep. I love Glenn, but she's winning the Oscar because it is a career Oscar and she's been lobbying hard for it. If it was just off performance, it'd be Olivia with Glenn and Gaga in second. And Richard E. Grant is charming, but it's telling how people want him to upset Ali because he's so "charming" and not just because of his performance. Like I've been following this for several years and they are always petty, mean, and sometimes worse and it's rarely based off only the performance. I was kind of hoping they wouldn't run anonymous ballots this year, because I know how messy and awful they are and there have been complaints that there is no point to it. And I also knew fans might overreact/be overly harsh towards Gaga being dragged (and it's not how she thanks Cooper, it's for the weeping), even if she's hardly the first person to be dragged for her speeches. And outside of Gaga's fanbase and in general film twitter/THR/etc., it's definitely more Cooper getting backlash, for mostly petty sh*t, than Gaga—which is a good thing, even if I feel sort of bad for him, because I think the knives would be more out for her if he wasn't the favorite target for now. This is the first time I've seen her singled out; most of it has been about what he's done "wrong." Part of me does find Gaga's speeches to be a bit cringe, but at the same time I think it's dumb that actors or singers have to change their natural reaction (be it too over the top, or not "enough"). But while I like following it all, this is the reason I don't take the awards seasons that seriously. what are anonymous ballots? Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetChromatica 2,266 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Fanta said: This. All this humbleness feels fake to me, raising her hands and the ‘thank you God’ and the crying and heavy breathing and the obviously toned down outfits and fake smiles like “Look at me I’m normal and humble and fit it”...it’s just not it and stands against everything Gaga is. If anyone in her team knew better they’d talk some sense into her and remind her she’s Lady f*cking Gaga. Stop crying and breaking down over everything, this is what you deserve and have earned after countless incredible performances and lots of hard work and effort. Seriously... This sort of tripe really makes me hate this forum sometimes. She has always been very emotional at award shows when winning, since the beginning, the only thing that is different is she is being a bit more gracious. Maybe she has just grown up and matured, not everything is calculated and planned. I can't believe that these comments are on a fan forum... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, ArtyRoberto said: This sort of tripe really makes me hate this forum sometimes. She has always been very emotional at award shows when winning, since the beginning, the only thing that is different is she is being a bit more gracious. Maybe she has just grown up and matured, not everything is calculated and planned. I can't believe that these comments are on a fan forum... Oh please, if anything is dramatic it’s comments like these. Many people have the same sentiment about her exaggerated speeches so clearly it was not a one time thing. Some of the sensitive fans on this forum should stay off Twitter, since there are actually SUPEE fans who also criticise Gaga. The speeches are dramatic and her acting like Bradley took her from rags to riches (in fake Hollywood of all places) is hard to watch. She needs to believe in herself more and know she deserves it. Crying is normal, but everywhere and all the time? A mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 ASIB is here to stay leave and snatch all wigs let wigs glued Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,106 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Emigrante said: I would love to know what Bradley supposedly did wrong during promotion?? For years, THR would print ballots or the reasoning behind the ballots by Oscar voters. Indiewire did it at one point, too. It was kind of controversial, because the voters were often mean, petty, and verged into sexism/racism and singled individuals out and people got mad that outlets would publish the nastiness. I "think" they may have stopped it this year. Bradley did this NYT times profile when ASIB first came out that went over verryyy badly with the film twitter/oscar twitter crowd. I went back and read it, and it was awkward but not terrible But they thought it made him come across as petulant. Then he did a last minute push, including an IndieWire piece that came across as an obvious PR move (they all do) and addressed that interview—and they thought he was blaming the journalist of the NYT unfairly. They also didn't like that he admitted to being disappointed about not getting nominated for Best Director (which is dumb to get mad at imo)—Mel Silverstein really went into him for it. Again, it's not his fault but the Hollywood system unfairly favors white men, but they were annoyed that a very successful actor with no previous directing, not even a music video, was given a studio project that turned out very successful and admitted to being disappointed for not getting nominated when Spike got his first not in 20 odd years and Marielle, whose film had even better reviews than ASIB, didn't get a best pic nod or a director nod. TDLR: they thought he was petulant, didn't handle not getting nominated well (they wanted him to probably say something like 'well, the film itself was reward enough), and didn't put in enough work campaigning (magazine covers, actor's roundtables and not just director ones, etc.). Again, it's mostly petty sh*t....but all of it tends to be very petty and these types of things occur each awards season. He just happened to be the one who was sort of singled out this season. Scott Feinberg had a pretty decent piece on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,850 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, LilyLark said: For years, THR would print ballots or the reasoning behind the ballots by Oscar voters. Indiewire did it at one point, too. It was kind of controversial, because the voters were often mean, petty, and verged into sexism/racism and singled individuals out and people got mad that outlets would publish the nastiness. I "think" they may have stopped it this year. Bradley did this NYT times profile when ASIB first came out that went over verryyy badly with the film twitter/oscar twitter crowd. I went back and read it, and it was awkward but not terrible But they thought it made him come across as petulant. Then he did a last minute push, including an IndieWire piece that came across as an obvious PR move (they all do) and addressed that interview—and they thought he was blaming the journalist of the NYT unfairly. They also didn't like that he admitted to being disappointed about not getting nominated for Best Director (which is dumb to get mad at imo)—Mel Silverstein really went into him for it. Again, it's not his fault but the Hollywood system unfairly favors white men, but they were annoyed that a very successful actor with no previous directing, not even a music video, was given a studio project that turned out very successful and admitted to being disappointed for not getting nominated when Spike got his first not in 20 odd years and Marielle, whose film had even better reviews than ASIB, didn't get a best pic nod or a director nod. TDLR: they thought he was petulant, didn't handle not getting nominated well (they wanted him to probably say something like 'well, the film itself was reward enough), and didn't put in enough work campaigning (magazine covers, actor's roundtables and not just director ones, etc.). Again, it's mostly petty sh*t....but all of it tends to be very petty and these types of things occur each awards season. He just happened to be the one who was sort of singled out this season. Scott Feinberg had a pretty decent piece on it. do you have the link to that NYT profile with bradley cooper? cause I'm wondering what did he say that was so bad. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetChromatica 2,266 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Fanta said: Oh please, if anything is dramatic it’s comments like these. Many people have the same sentiment about her exaggerated speeches so clearly it was not a one time thing. Some of the sensitive fans on this forum should stay off Twitter, since there are actually SUPEE fans who also criticise Gaga. The speeches are dramatic and her acting like Bradley took her from rags to riches (in fake Hollywood of all places) is hard to watch. She needs to believe in herself more and know she deserves it. Crying is normal, but everywhere and all the time? A mess. It's disappointing and ridiculous that when Gaga is finally doing really well again, people still find something to complain about. Most of the backlash over the past 6 months have been caused by fans making "in" jokes that have become viral such as the 100 people in a room meme. What Gaga is saying about Bradley IS valid, she has been trying to get into acting since 2013 but could only land cameo or very small roles. Bradley has been the only person to actually give her a lead role and believe she could do, so your moaning about her thanking him is your own problem. You are saying she should believe in herself more and be less emotional, well if it wasn't for people like you literally tearing everything she does to pieces, over analysing and saying its fake or too dramatic. This stuff is literally why she doesn't interact with us on any social media, not even her own website she created just for fans. Most of the fans are now vultures, loving her only when she does one thing right and then picking apart everything else she does, so don't lecture me on being dramatic or sensitive. She has always been extra, emotional and thanks who she works with and giving credit were its due. If you see that as cringey and fake then it's literally doing against her message of accepting others for being different from you, just because the way she is and behaves is more dramatic or emotional than you would like does not mean she has to change her personality for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipz 1,200 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The thing with Gaga's speeches is they really look fake to me. Like she is trying too hard to start crying, or you can feel she's not that excited she pretends to be. I definitely can see the part when there is 3..2..1.. and then immediately change in the mood and start crying. It's not a problem for me at all and I don't care, but maybe it's annoying to some people. Maybe it's a question how she's acting so bad during the acceptance speech, if she's acting at all, then how can she win the award for best actress? For example, during the Grammys even Cardi B looked more real reaction, Casey. Look at all the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,889 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, LilyLark said: And also keep awarding a film a Trump guy and a guy who kept whipping his **** out around unsuspecting people wrote/produced/directed. Hollywood is going to Hollywood. Also, the minute I saw that Adam McKay kept getting nominated for a film that has some of the "worst" reviews in Oscar history (BoRhap has that same problem) and got a director nod over Marielle Heller, whose film is rated 98% on rotten tomatoes and got Melissa and Richard nominations, I figured Hollywood is going to keep being Hollywood even if Harvey and his campaign shenanigans are done with. Ugh #Justice4CanUEverForgiveMe #Justice4EighthGrade #Justice4ToniColette As a movie, I liked Green Book enough and I don’t regret seeing it but it felt a bit dated imo. I tell people that while representation is good and the story is interesting, did it need to be told? Did we need yet another film depicting various levels of racism even if it was historically accurate? Did we need to see another white protagonist come to the rescue of a black man? Imo it *wanted* to say something about race but Farrelly just doesn’t have the experience with race to make such statements so it felt a bit canned and hollow (even though I think Mahershala, Vigo, and the rest of the cast turned in great performances). Whereas movies like CYEFM and 8th Grade felt fresh in what stories they were telling and the ways they told them while also being great films. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvais 0 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 “The new one is a masterpiece — for 40 minutes,” one producer told me. yes, and? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Guys she's winning best original song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 18 hours ago, GypsyBabe said: This is so annoying to me. I hate that it's never about the work, but about the politics. There is a reason that my filmmaker friends always called these award shows ridiculous. It should be based on performance and content, not the press trail. As I have gotten older, all of these award shows have really lost the magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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