Study shows that European gay men increasingly vote far-right extremists

[corvus albus 38,031]

5 minutes ago, Benji said:

That’s far from the truth but I know coverage across Europe on Brexit has either been near non-existent or obviously biased so I’m not surprised you’re under that impression 

And again, I think saying the conservatives are the reason people leave the U.K. is pretty misguided.  Most people left because they want to live in a warmer climate... if we’re talking about wealth, jobs, social issues and general quality of life then the U.K. is one of the best places to live in and out of the EU.

Then why did the wife of my uncle and several of her friends, get a German passport despite being from the UK?

[corvus albus 38,031]

8 minutes ago, JustAnother said:

Why shouldn’t POC exclusively not be allowed to vote for Trump? 

Trump is blatantly racist and bigoted towards POC, LGBTQ people and Immigrants. Voting for him as POC just seems kinda weird. Like a masochistic fetish: "yes I will vote for the people that hate me, master"

[Benji 20,113]

1 minute ago, corvus albus said:

Then why did the wife of my uncle and several of her friends, get a German passport despite being from the UK?

I have no idea, why did they? 

[Othon 34,299]

32 minutes ago, Varys said:

But the truth is in europe or at least my country not one rich person would vote for the extreme right because they are economically left but socially extreme right

rich people vote for the liberal party which is the opposite of what I wrote above so @OG Gaga Stan was just wrong

What country are you from? Because, internationally, those with wealth are absolutely much more likely to back conservatives and policy that props up austerity. They stand to benefit financially from deregulation and the continued slashing of social service funds.

[Antichrist 9,818]

4 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

Me being gay doesn't mean that everyone that knows me knows I'm gay. Most people wouldn't even assume that looking at me or talking to me. What I want to say here is that being gay doesn't define me much on the outside but the fact of the matter is that my beliefs are something very personal that I don't share with everyone. I don't vote for people that hurt myself or other minorities with hatespeech. If a party starts scapegoating groups of people for no reason, I won't vote for them and If you as a person vote for parties that are out to hurt me because I'm part of the LGBTQ community that isn't my problem. Conservative parties are usually very backward looking and anti -LGBTQ and voting for them makes the life for these people harder.

Supporting people that are trying to hurt me will result in me stop being a friend of yours is my main statement here. Stop being ignorant about the fact that other people have to suffer because of your decisions. Actions matter more than intent.

being gay doesn't define you as much but what? on the outside it affects you completely? you didn't end that statement.

hatespeech.. yes.. if speech hurts you, then you have some living to do, and some self-esteem to attain, because that is not how this earth functions, sadly.

so you don't support people who 'hurt you and your minority'. now, i do NOT WANT TO SOUND 'OFFENSIVE' but... basing on your view, it is okay to hurt others & their community solely because you feel hurt & offended?

[Othon 34,299]

42 minutes ago, Economy said:

Here's a concept...

Some LGBT may not make LGBT the one single issue determining who they vote for... There's other issues in life that might actually sway some to vote right wing...

I'm tired of some people acting like some specific social issues should define my entire political opinion

Imagine being a member of an oppressed group of people and then deliberately betraying other marginalized peoples by voting for discriminatory right-wing parties and capitalism.

[corvus albus 38,031]

Just now, Benji said:

I have no idea, why did they? 

I don't know. I haven't been able to talk to them for years but my parents were there a month ago and they told me that afterward I just know that this aunt debated with herself since the referendum and now after all the drama she decided to take the German passport

[Antichrist 9,818]

1 minute ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

Imagine being a member of an oppressed group of people and then deliberately betraying other marginalized peoples by voting for discriminatory right-wing parties and capitalism.

this makes no sense whatsoever. a member of an oppressed group? what? WHAT? IN 2019? WHATTTTT? the fact that you have the nerve to want to make everyone that is the same sexuality as you have the same view/political view/whatever view you can imagine, you know what that's called?

 

FASCISM.

 

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13 minutes ago, JustAnother said:

He did imply that POC shouldn’t vote for Trump “out of all people” though 

Because of Trump's history with racism and discrimination.

[corvus albus 38,031]

1 minute ago, Antichrist said:

being gay doesn't define you as much but what? on the outside it affects you completely? you didn't end that statement.

hatespeech.. yes.. if speech hurts you, then you have some living to do, and some self-esteem to attain, because that is not how this earth functions, sadly.

so you don't support people who 'hurt you and your minority'. now, i do NOT WANT TO SOUND 'OFFENSIVE' but... basing on your view, it is okay to hurt others & their community solely because you feel hurt & offended?

Di you even read what I wrote here? I said very explicitly that being gay doesn't affect the way I interact with my surroundings. When you as a person vote for a party that tries to make me a second class citizen because I don't fit into their narrow worldview  I'm going to cut you out of my life. The action of voting for alt-right party results in many catastrophic problems for the people that these parties target, be it POC or LGTBQ folk. These people want to literally cleanse the earth of people that don't fit their worldview and you have the nerve of calling me hurt and offended? I have the right to be against people that want to see me dead.

[JustAnother 5,113]

4 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

Trump is blatantly racist and bigoted towards POC, LGBTQ people and Immigrants. Voting for him as POC just seems kinda weird. Like a masochistic fetish: "yes I will vote for the people that hate me, master"

If you have the time I’d recommend this video.

 

[corvus albus 38,031]

3 minutes ago, Antichrist said:

this makes no sense whatsoever. a member of an oppressed group? what? WHAT? IN 2019? WHATTTTT? the fact that you have the nerve to want to make everyone that is the same sexuality as you have the same view/political view/whatever view you can imagine, you know what that's called?

 

FASCISM.

 

 

This is not fascism you idiot! Just out of a necessity of survival we should expect people with the same problems as us to vote similarly like us not AGAINST US!

[Othon 34,299]

1 minute ago, Antichrist said:

this makes no sense whatsoever. a member of an oppressed group? what? WHAT? IN 2019? WHATTTTT? the fact that you have the nerve to want to make everyone that is the same sexuality as you have the same view/political view/whatever view you can imagine, you know what that's called?

FASCISM.

Fascism is a historical movement rooted in rightwing, hyper-capitalist economic institutions and a complete and total deference to dictatorial leaders while suppressing leftist theory. 

Fascism isn't someone telling you that you're a moron for backing rightwing parties with racist, anti-immigrant, anti-queer and pro-corporate platforms.

The fact that you think that queer people aren't still experiencing oppression says it all, honestly.  

[Antichrist 9,818]

1 minute ago, corvus albus said:

Di you even read what I wrote here? I said very explicitly that being gay doesn't affect the way I interact with my surroundings. When you as a person vote for a party that tries to make me a second class citizen because I don't fit into their narrow worldview  I'm going to cut you out of my life. The action of voting for alt-right party results in many catastrophic problems for the people that these parties target, be it POC or LGTBQ folk. These people want to literally cleanse the earth of people that don't fit their worldview and you have the nerve of calling me hurt and offended? I have the right to be against people that want to see me dead.

show me videos, show me interviews, show me 100% definite proof of this.

1 minute ago, corvus albus said:

This is not fascism you idiot! Just out of a necessity of survival we should expect people with the same problems as us to vote similarly like us not AGAINST US!

just out of necessity of compassion, as you have towards your own 'people', you should realize that your own problems aren't everyone's problems, aren't the problems of the majority of the world, & should work towards solving the problems of both sides in a manner that doesn't focus on you & your own side only. you idiot.

[Othon 34,299]

Lots of people outing themselves in this thread.