RochestrMonstr 2,274 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, FfFfFfFF said: It's better to have someone guilty free than someone inoccent in prison. 48 minutes ago, Kimblue said: WOW That is disgusting I'm confused as to what makes this statement disgusting. That's a valid point. Is it better to have innocent people going to prison? Nobody deserves to be the victim of sexual assault, and i'm not trying to pretend I know what it's like. But nobody who is innocent of a crime deserves to go to prison either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimblue 7,334 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, RochestrMonstr said: I'm confused as to what makes this statement disgusting. That's a valid point. Is it better to have innocent people going to prison? Nobody deserves to be the victim of sexual assault, and i'm not trying to pretend I know what it's like. But nobody who is innocent of a crime deserves to go to prison either. It’s not ok that innocent people go to prison. It’s also not ok that rapists are free to keep on hurting more people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 9,466 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Yes Gaga! Drag that lawyer to the pits of monster hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 10,959 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: I understand those arguments but they don't prove anything, they make it more likely that Kesha is right, they are helping Kesha's case but not proving she is right. There is still the doubt and th possibility of her lying - so it's not enough for a sentece. I agree, nothing proves anything, unless someone else saw Dr. Luke sexually assault Kesha. She wasn’t called out for definitive proof either. In the whole context she was probably telling what she knows but she believes in her friend so became defensive No family’s safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 2,274 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kimblue said: It’s not ok that innocent people go to prison. It’s also not ok that rapists are free to keep on hurting more people. Of course it's not ok. Hopefully someday there will be a better way scientifically to prove sexual assault. I personally believe Kesha, but I also don't see how they can throw someone in prison without proof. There usually isn't proof in these cases, and that's beyond tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko 10,186 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Well, the deposition took place in September of 2017 and in the same month she cancelled Rock In Rio and postponed (and eventually cancelled) some JWT dates. I guess it really did have huge impact on her and triggered her. So sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko 10,186 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, Kimblue said: No having actual rapists roaming free is more horrific than innocent people in prison. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelfoxxx 118 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I am also a sexual survivor, so i can imagine their feelings.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 27,837 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 She really ENDED this lawyer Queen! SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MonsterOfSpain said: I'm sorry, I can't agree with everything she says. I understand she has gone through sexual assault and how traumatic that experience was for her, but presumption of innocence must always be respected and the victim's word can't be the only proof in a case like this, in my honest opinion Yes and honestly this her statement is something you say at an event or publicly not in a court of law, imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,363 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 LOL I live for Gaga's depositions. They always clap back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, RochestrMonstr said: I'm confused as to what makes this statement disgusting. That's a valid point. Is it better to have innocent people going to prison? Nobody deserves to be the victim of sexual assault, and i'm not trying to pretend I know what it's like. But nobody who is innocent of a crime deserves to go to prison either. How is that a valid point? Saying rapists should be free to rape - that’s better than making a mistake?? How about none of these things are better than the other, but one is clearly more harmful to society? And that one is letting rapist go free (I’m not just talking about this case). All of you who agree with that ffff statement, in general, seem to sympathize more with the accused than the victim. I wonder why? Were you falsely accused before? Are you afraid of being accused? There’s definitely emotional involvement. And Kesha never actually wanted dr.Luke to be imprisoned, she wanted people to believe her so she’d be free from him, not forced to work in that toxic environment. So you should forget about “innocent man going to jail” in this case. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 96,178 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: It's better to have someone guilty free than someone inoccent in prison. None of those options are better than the other. Justice failed in both cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggsy 8,280 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 hours ago, monketsharona said: "Don’t you roll you eyes at me. You should be ashamed of yourself," she added. She better have said that in ha Mother voice.. Jk.. She is such a kind soul... Her words i just cant even.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: It's better to have someone guilty free than someone inoccent in prison. I-- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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