ALGAYDO 32,627 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Nnnn madonna fans need to chill, not everything is shade but just stupid fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciidSwine 108 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Antichrist said: exactly, isn't this site childish, despite the fact that she hasn't done anything worthy of seething over, yet here we are. is that the point you were trying to make? Oh god, hop back over to your madonna site please. Madonna stans and Madonna herself have been inarguably pettier towards Lady Gaga for the past idk...7-8 years? Not only on forums but infiltrating media and wikipedia attempting to do their part in making Gaga less popular or tarnish her image or whatever they think they're accomplishing. Literal facts. And you're trying to equate that actively vile behavior to some young pop stans on a forum devoted to Lady Gaga having something to say about it? Please. If anything, theres more Gaga stans trying to overcompensate to not seem delusional and forcing themselves to stan Madonna than there are genuinely pressed individuals actively hating on the daily. Like to even try and pretend Madonna stans are not actively worse in their negativity is a complete utter lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 81,232 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said: Nnnn madonna fans need to chill, not everything is shade but just stupid fun Thank you for this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, AciidSwine said: Oh god, hop back over to your madonna site please. Madonna stans and Madonna herself have been inarguably pettier towards Lady Gaga for the past idk...7-8 years? Not only on forums but infiltrating media and wikipedia attempting to do their part in making Gaga less popular or tarnish her image or whatever. Literal facts. And you're trying to equate that actively vile behavior to some young pop stans on a forum devoted to Lady Gaga having something to say about it? Please. so because someone is petty, it means we can be petty back, as long as we're not as bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Well, obviously no harm intended so I hope some people don't actually take their comments seriously. It's a funny moment though, her reaction is gold But yeah, she's clearly talking about hardcore fandom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciidSwine 108 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Antichrist said: so because someone is petty, it means we can be petty back, as long as we're not as bad? Considering your fav has held that exact hypocritical mentality I don't see why you would take issue with it? That being said, some monsters may be dumb and ramble for sure, but the Madonna stans intent on degrading Gaga are hardcore about it in ways that actually yield results. Its really not as equatable as you're trying to argue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, AciidSwine said: Considering your fav has held that exact hypocritical mentality I don't see why you would take issue with it? That being said, some monsters may be dumb and ramble for sure, but the Madonna stans intent on degrading Gaga are hardcore about it in ways that actually yield results. Its really not as equatable as you're trying to argue. my favs mentality isn't my mentality though, what.. even.. also, what actual results did the pressed lil' medonsters make? changing wikipedia pics? that's the huge blow they're making to gaga's career? come on, please. gags is about to be nominated for oscars, and changing her wikipedia pic is going to prevent that? you can't really say they're the worst fanbase, because you are in the position of a hardcore gaga fan on a gaga forum. everything regarding madonna here will be blown out of proportion, such as 'madonna posts something something on her IG story, shading gaga' when most of the things literally have nothing at all to do with gags. tho the thing with madge is that she knows exactly how to make people speculate, because y'all dumb. Spoiler i don't even know where i wanted to go with this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciidSwine 108 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 hours ago, That J said: Yea this thread is needed. One minute theres seething from folks about Glenn. Now shes loved for a sentence that got cut off. The part ya missed was where she had nice things to say. God PLEASE let Madonna come back HARD to Silence the commonfolk. Lol Hmmm I think if you hold this opinion you're not quite getting the big picture. Am I condoning hatred? No. But I think for the past idk, 8 years or so "gaga fans" have held the sh*t end of the stick in terms of getting scapegoated for all of the negativity within "stan culture". "We" are the petty ones that can't take a joke, having nothing but negative things to say about other artists, etc etc. Yet if you look around other pop forums, other fanbases, its all exactly the same kind of actively vile behavior. And to think of the ways in which Madonna stans as a general whole have been by far more actively detrimental to Lady Gagas career (and im not just talking fans on a forum im talking about those who work for publications that affect her metacritic score, reviews, etc), it just seems kind of ignorant to be complaining about some gaga stans on a gaga forum making some playfully shady thread. Theres a certain cattiness in "stan culture" that will literally never go away, it will never cease, and thats just how it is. And quite honestly if you genuinely believe gaga fans have no reason to have certain opinions regarding Madonna and her hardcore stans who are hardcore Gaga detractors, then again, doesn't really make sense to me. All of this aside, I feel like I should have to state for the record that I love Madonna, appreciate her, "stan" her work, etc. But in regards to all of this stan nonsense, I really don't think anyone should be blaming anyone for having sh*t to say either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciidSwine 108 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Antichrist said: my favs mentality isn't my mentality though, what.. even.. also, what actual results did the pressed lil' medonsters make? changing wikipedia pics? that's the huge blow they're making to gaga's career? come on, please. gags is about to be nominated for oscars, and changing her wikipedia pic is going to prevent that? you can't really say they're the worst fanbase, because you are in the position of a hardcore gaga fan on a gaga forum. everything regarding madonna here will be blown out of proportion, such as 'madonna posts something something on her IG story, shading gaga' when most of the things literally have nothing at all to do with gags. tho the thing with madge is that she knows exactly how to make people speculate, because y'all dumb. Reveal hidden contents i don't even know where i wanted to go with this post Who said anything about being the "worst" fanbase and what do you know of my appreciation for Madonna? Its an objective truth that there are Madonna stans within publications that actively create comparisons and negative reviews because of their own personal bias, a portion of The Born This Way Ball negative press was a direct result of that. And if you actively do not acknowledge that then thats your own willful ignorance. You are on a Gaga forum, where her fans are clearly going to have things to say about Madonna who has been incredibly disrespectful towards Lady Gaga publically in the past, and yes it goes both ways. And thats exactly why Madonna fans have things to say as well. But to sit here and try to degrade users with pompous sarcasm and blind defense of Madonna isn't exactly rational or intellectual behavior? Which you clearly seem to think of yourself as both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I don't know what is more petty. Monsters rejoicing over the tiniest slither of Madonna hate or the GGD Twitter account. I'm so out of touch with these silly stan things The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, AciidSwine said: Who said anything about being the "worst" fanbase and what do you know of my appreciation for Madonna? Its an objective truth that there are Madonna stans within publications that actively create comparisons and negative reviews because of their own personal bias, a portion of The Born This Way Ball negative press was a direct result of that. And if you actively do not acknowledge that then thats your own willful ignorance. You are on a Gaga forum, where her fans are clearly going to have things to say about Madonna who has been incredibly disrespectful towards Lady Gaga publically in the past, and yes it goes both ways. And thats exactly why Madonna fans have things to say as well. But to sit here and try to degrade users with pompous sarcasm and blind defense of Madonna isn't exactly rational or intellectual behavior? Which you clearly seem to think of yourself as both. it's literally like that with every single popstar. all of them are compared to each other all the time. the thing that baffles me is that most of this site is still stuck in 2011. everything that gaga does is instantly compared to madge. so in 2011, it was almost illegal to compare madonna to gaga, because y'know gaga does her own thing blahblahblah, now in 2019 the comparisons are literally blooming, because gaga is about to get an oscar, something which madonna never got () it amazes me that we're debating how fans are allowed to be petty because of certain reasons, rather than reasons they shouldn't be petty at all, because you know, they're just popstars, and we'll never know what actually goes on behind the scenes. they're probably all friends & are just making money out of the headlines anyways. Spoiler except madge, cuz she's the qWeen of universe & can do no wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AciidSwine 108 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Antichrist said: it's literally like that with every single popstar. all of them are compared to each other all the time. the thing that baffles me is that most of this site is still stuck in 2011. everything that gaga does is instantly compared to madge. so in 2011, it was almost illegal to compare madonna to gaga, because y'know gaga does her own thing blahblahblah, now in 2019 the comparisons are literally blooming, because gaga is about to get an oscar, something which madonna never got () it amazes me that we're debating how fans are allowed to be petty because of certain reasons, rather than reasons they shouldn't be petty at all, because you know, they're just popstars, and we'll never know what actually goes on behind the scenes. they're probably all friends & are just making money out of the headlines anyways. Hide contents except madge, cuz she's the qWeen of universe & can do no wrong Its not a debate of how fans should be "allowed" to be petty so much as a realist point of view as to why certain behaviors and resentments exist in the first place. And I think an acknowledgement of the double standards between fan groups in how Madonna stans are generally allowed to be as actively pressed as they please and Gaga fans essentially expected to or bullied into either silence or "educating" themselves and appreciating her legacy is essential in the argument for the stan nonsense to cease if thats something you're clearly concerned with. The hypocrisy lays with your kind of attitude imo in not acknowledging such imbalance and trying to arrogantly place all the blame on attitudes here. And quite honestly while some petty fans do compare them, I think attitudes here pale in comparison to the genuine hatred many Madonna stans feel towards Lady Gaga and subsequently how that influences their attitudes towards her fans. Neither side is "innocent" per se but I think one is clearly more verbally aggressive than the other. Thats not even a matter of debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, AciidSwine said: Hmmm I think if you hold this opinion you're not quite getting the big picture. Am I condoning hatred? No. But I think for the past idk, 8 years or so "gaga fans" have held the sh*t end of the stick in terms of getting scapegoated for all of the negativity within "stan culture". "We" are the petty ones that can't take a joke, having nothing but negative things to say about other artists, etc etc. Yet if you look around other pop forums, other fanbases, its all exactly the same kind of actively vile behavior. And to think of the ways in which Madonna stans as a general whole have been by far more actively detrimental to Lady Gagas career (and im not just talking fans on a forum im talking about those who work for publications that affect her metacritic score, reviews, etc), it just seems kind of ignorant to be complaining about some gaga stans on a gaga forum making some playfully shady thread. Theres a certain cattiness in "stan culture" that will literally never go away, it will never cease, and thats just how it is. And quite honestly if you genuinely believe gaga fans have no reason to have certain opinions regarding Madonna and her hardcore stans who are hardcore Gaga detractors, then again, doesn't really make sense to me. All of this aside, I feel like I should have to state for the record that I love Madonna, appreciate her, "stan" her work, etc. But in regards to all of this stan nonsense, I really don't think anyone should be blaming anyone for having sh*t to say either way. Well thanks for your comment. I didnt blame anyone for anything. You said the key word here..."playfully"...if you have followed these threads you will know that anytime Madonna is mentioned, I ALWAYS come in with rolling eyes, a yawn, defense and call it boring. Lol. It's my way of playing back! Just like her haters can hate her and discuss it, I can love her and discuss that too. It's never that serious with me but I'm too known to say something to NOT say something. Lol In all fairness tho, I think both sides of the topic should get over it because literally nothing is happening within it. But this is a free forum and that's allowed. And I will always be the guy to call it reductive because it's funny to me. Plus it's what I do now to a point where its expected. Haha. Xoxo The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, AciidSwine said: Who said anything about being the "worst" fanbase and what do you know of my appreciation for Madonna? Its an objective truth that there are Madonna stans within publications that actively create comparisons and negative reviews because of their own personal bias, a portion of The Born This Way Ball negative press was a direct result of that. And if you actively do not acknowledge that then thats your own willful ignorance. You are on a Gaga forum, where her fans are clearly going to have things to say about Madonna who has been incredibly disrespectful towards Lady Gaga publically in the past, and yes it goes both ways. And thats exactly why Madonna fans have things to say as well. But to sit here and try to degrade users with pompous sarcasm and blind defense of Madonna isn't exactly rational or intellectual behavior? Which you clearly seem to think of yourself as both. What I find silly is when people here talk against people on another forum for doing EXACTLY what they are doing here. That's the one thing that just flies over my head. And when on earth was sarcasm an issue here? Lol. Let's not climb the cross just yet. The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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