Vitleysingur 13,784 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 When you are THIS BOTHERED stanning a popstar, why can't you just LEAVE? Imagine spending time writing essays on a forum and nitpicking about everything.every single day of your life. Just ignore the troll. Dreams of you and me are in the dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Didymus said: So what, she was implying that R. Kelly was her rapist? You do realize she's telling R. Kelly he should do what he wants with her body, right? Why would Kelly ever agree to perform on a track that confirmed his controversial status as a rapist? Obviously Gaga must have told him that the whole thing is really about Kelly being slandered by the media, as she was too. Which, again, brings the song back to a statement against the media. Girl can u stop? When did anyone here say anything about r Kelly being her rapist ?? I’m sorry. Ur delulu I’m out ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Vitleysingur said: When you are THIS BOTHERED stanning a popstar, why can't you just LEAVE? Imagine spending time writing essays on a forum and nitpicking about everything. I feel like I'm defending Gaga here, so I don't know what you're smoking but I sure don't wanna join in. I was very happy with Gaga's apology, I just think Xtina trying to get a piece of Gaga's cake is ridiculous and tasteless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Gracious Gaga said: Girl can u stop? When did anyone here say anything about r Kelly being her rapist ?? Omg... Obviously I didn't mean he raped Gaga wtf I'm just saying: R. Kelly would never agree to perform on a song that was secretly about Gaga being raped by someone (as in: R. Kelly would take the role of her rapist), he was drowning in his own rape scandal You just misunderstood me, which is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, Didymus said: I feel like I'm defending Gaga here, so I don't know what you're smoking but I sure don't wanna join in. I was very happy with Gaga's apology, I just think Xtina trying to get a piece of Gaga's cake is ridiculous and tasteless. It's called support. Christina collaborated on the song and alot of fans were asking for her version to replace the original with R Kelly so she pretty much had to speak out. Stop being so negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 This was the last televised performance of this song (before Gaga disappeared from the public for two months) and it was a duet between two females. The song could have meant something different to Gaga at this particular time. It could have taken on a new meaning when it was performed between two females. It could have been interpreted differently by Christina. It’s not a reach to believe that lyrics to songs can take on different meanings over time or in different performance circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 76,202 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just saying but most Lady Gaga songs have several meanings (especially her songs from The Fame to ARTPOP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipper 12,990 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Didymus said: That makes sense but that still doesn't explain why she'd write a song about that That would mean she was consciously aware of this psychological reaction of hers and every statement she's made about her abuse experience contradicts that. I can't really explain what's going on her head but honestly her ARTPOP could mean anything. I am aware what you are saying. GAGA does contradict herself but honestly if I was in that situation, and as it happened to her on her rise to stardom, I wouldn't know what to do. Some artists resort to excessive drug use, some to drinking and partying to fill that emptiness inside of them and Gaga decided to write a song about it and covered the meaning? I think Gaga was on a path to self-destruct herself during ARTPOP and the people around her like Akon, her manager, the media, and the GP helped criticize her and bring her down before she actually popped (thank goodness). She then suffered a massive decline after the era. Her C2C was her hope. TONY saved her I still believe this. 💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,308 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 @Didymus and I may not agree on this and other stuff but his points of view often open great conversations and this is what this forum is about, to appreciate Gaga and give some critics about her work, good and bad. I appreciate him for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Vegas said: @Didymus and I may not agree on this and other stuff but his points of view often open great conversations and this is what this forum is about, to appreciate Gaga and give some critics about her work, good and bad. I appreciate him for that. Aw thanks, man. I respect you and your opinion tremendously so I’m glad you don’t think of me as a troll as, apparently, some do I do need to work on my delivery though, clearly I really wasn’t trying to gun for Gaga here, I’m still a little confused about why people think I was... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Shipper said: honestly if I was in that situation, and as it happened to her on her rise to stardom, I wouldn't know what to do. Some artists resort to excessive drug use, some to drinking and partying to fill that emptiness inside of them and Gaga decided to write a song about it and covered the meaning? Well, from her interviews it seems she did all those things But yeah, I’m obviously aware there’s many hidden layers to her songs. I was the one making analytical ARTPOP threads in 2013 when people, ironically, mocked me for trying to interpret those songs as anything but simple pop Coincidentally, I just thought DWUW was one of the easiest and best explained songs of the bunch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Vegas said: @Didymus and I may not agree on this and other stuff but his points of view often open great conversations and this is what this forum is about, to appreciate Gaga and give some critics about her work, good and bad. I appreciate him for that. Me too tbh. We've clashed in this thread and some others but I appreciate any opportunity to have a deeper discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,308 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Didymus said: Aw thanks, man. I respect you and your opinion tremendously so I’m glad you don’t think of me as a troll as, apparently, some do I do need to work on my delivery though, clearly I really wasn’t trying to gun for Gaga here, I’m still a little confused about why people think I was... It’s okay though, we all have spent a lot of time on Gaga and has become a passionate subject for most, like watching sports, so arguments could get heated anytime. I remember a few days ago I said on another thread I was disappointed in Gaga for never addressing R Kelly/DWUW and got dragged, and look where we are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,251 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Didymus said: Weird. How could she have known it was about sexual predators though lol, there's like nothing in the lyrics to suggest that. Anyway, good milking of the situation, Xtina. Continue with your fake ass feminism, look-at-our-tits-but-don't-look-at-our-tits Fall in Line style Edit: Read my next page explanation first before you @ me. (No one in 2013 interpreted that song as being related to sexual predators. That song is 100% about the media and there is no subtext about sexual predators whatsoever. Gaga explained that lyric herself with reference to the cover art which was a statement against Kim K selling her body to the press. Xtina's "you may have had my body" reinterpretation is bs, the whole point of that era was to give her body to the press (hence, the video), it wasn't a retrospect thing. Anyway, whatever. Smart of her to share in Gaga's moment but to me it's really tasteless.) "The lyrics are not only about, you know, the way that I feel now, sexually as a woman in my life. It's kind of like one of the greatest gifts you can give to a man that you love, it's just like do what you want with me, I don't care. And then at the same time it's about the press and becoming more and more famous and really needing to figure out a way to, in my mind, to handle all those things and the way that I've really kind of navigated all that is by knowing that they do what they want with my body, but that's just the vehicle for my music and my records." - Lady Gaga Songs can have multiple meanings. Do What You Want has multiple meanings. Since you are so focused on what Gaga has said, I figured you would like this quote. I think this quote does show that she was a dark time, because that's an incredibly unhealthy view of a relationship, which should be based on love and respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
techhausmonster 175 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Didymus said: Weird. How could she have known it was about sexual predators though lol, there's like nothing in the lyrics to suggest that. Anyway, good milking of the situation, Xtina. Continue with your fake ass feminism, look-at-our-tits-but-don't-look-at-our-tits Fall in Line style Edit: Read my next page explanation first before you @ me. (No one in 2013 interpreted that song as being related to sexual predators. That song is 100% about the media and there is no subtext about sexual predators whatsoever. Gaga explained that lyric herself with reference to the cover art which was a statement against Kim K selling her body to the press. Xtina's "you may have had my body" reinterpretation is bs, the whole point of that era was to give her body to the press (hence, the video), it wasn't a retrospect thing. Anyway, whatever. Smart of her to share in Gaga's moment but to me it's really tasteless.) You have no idea what Gaga and her talked about during the making of the remix. Gaga could have explained to her what she was trying to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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