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Trump says he plans to end birthright citizenship with an executive order


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2 hours ago, geopang said:

Well, I don’t necesarily think this is a bad idea. I think citizenship for births should only be given if the parents have been in the country for a certain amount of time. For example, 2-5 years. Because coming to the US just to give birth and reep the benefits is really unfair.

Well 2-5 years is a little long

 

What about new immigrants that are legal and here to stay? What citizenship are the kids supposed to get as babies then? Their parents citizenship of a country they probably will never live in?

 

If it's people that took an extended vacation in a nation to have a baby, that's different, that I agree with removing

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Whispering

Where are all of the Constitutional Literalists now? The same party that argues that the 2nd amendment should should only have the framer's intent be considered are now arguing that the 14th amendment can be reinterpreted?

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2 hours ago, JevyDuty said:

They can't. This is not just any law. Laws (executive orders)have to abide by the constitution. The constitution says what it says. Only a SUPERMAJORITY in Congress can do it. 

So I read up a bit more and while children born to non-citizens legally in the country probably won't be affected, SCOTUS could interpret it differently and claim that the "subject to its laws" part don't cover illegal immigrants (which is complete BS but you know Republicans)

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So many things he could change and modify to improve the wellbeing of americans, but he focuses always on things that relate to race. Why the obsession with race in this world

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Whispering

 

“Alien Enemies in Hostile Occupation.” Remember that phrase, because it comes from a seminal case on the 14th Amendment, U.S. v Wong Kim Ark. The phrase is cited by the Supreme Court as one of two exceptions to birthright citizenship. Trump will claim no amendment is needed because illegals are alien enemies, and are in hostile occupation of our country. Pretty similar to how “enemy combatant” was used to strip Americans of other rights in the War on Terror.

Trump is going to brand this as a war, and try to start asserting war-like powers to justify stripping Americans of rights in the interest of national security. 

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LeJudas

No way this can happen. You can't touch the amendments. It should only be updated as the times change but never changed to worsen the lives of it's citizens.

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monsterhooker
11 hours ago, That J said:

Oh I know.  I know. Such an awful state we are in. 

Ya know, I say this at least once a week these days: "yea but this is going too far".

These midterms are absolutely the most important midterm election period in my near 40 years on this earth. I've already voted. I firmly believe in January of 2021, Democrats will reign once more. It's just getting there that's the problem.

Hillary was correct in her last interview. The DEMOCRAT that will be our new President on that day will have a ton of heavy lifting to do.  In 2 years he has nearly destroyed everything....locked kids in cages, ruined relations with other nations, the list goes on.  

As for Brett? I'm always on a mission, big and small and today I am wearing my IMPEACH BRETT shirt all over this mofo town! 

WRONG! Trump 2020!

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ARTPOP2

Like why is this administration a big waste of time and energy. Like why not trying to figure out some solution for the climate crisis instead of creating problems and picking on minorities. 

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That J
2 hours ago, monsterhooker said:

WRONG! Trump 2020!

I will kindly agree to disagree..

And just because we don't agree does not make me automatically wrong.  I dont care who people vote for as long as they vote. I would recommend you truly be aware if you arent already. But I'm not wrong. 

Good luck with your choices.   Thanks 

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That J

 

2 hours ago, ARTPOP2 said:

Like why is this administration a big waste of time and energy. Like why not trying to figure out some solution for the climate crisis instead of creating problems and picking on minorities. 

They have to believe in climate change before they can fix it! Lol

Yes they are that dense.  

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