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Just now, Clip said:

I didn't notice that!

Reminds me of that clip of Amy Winehouse getting out of the rehab while her boyfriend is holding a joint for her outside :noparty:

I didn't notice until the I watched it the second time. 

That's sad about AW. 

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19 minutes ago, Clip said:

I get that he has an addictive personality but I thought that was kind of weird.

there is no such thing as an "addictive personality"

thats borderline offensive girl ... 

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26 minutes ago, maxmore said:

there is no such thing as an "addictive personality"

thats borderline offensive girl ... 

Why?? Some people tend to get addicted to all kinds of stuff more than others. I've seen this term being used here a lot and even by Gaga (I think she said that she had an addictive personality and that she got addicted to fillers at some point in 2012)

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It will probably be some kind of an opioid painkiller,  I imagine it's oxycodone.

4 minutes ago, maxmore said:

there is no such thing as an "addictive personality"

thats borderline offensive girl ... 

Technically no, but it serves as a good umbrella term for recognising certain people will be more drawn to abuse drugs, alcohol etc.

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35 minutes ago, GlamGorgeousGG said:

I didn't notice until the I watched it the second time. 

That's sad about AW. 

Did you notice many new things when watching again?

I'm thinking about watching it for the second time this weekend but I'm not really sure

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49 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said:

Wasn't it the same kind of pills but he crushed them?

yh i remember him crushing pills

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20 minutes ago, Clip said:

Did you notice many new things when watching again?

I'm thinking about watching it for the second time this weekend but I'm not really sure

I did.  It was definitely worth it for me.  Things just sunk in more or I heard dialogue that I didn't notice before.  Especially some of Jackson's mumbles

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like after the Grammy's and they're putting Jackson in the shower and he says "Bobby will take care of it"  sob I didn't hear that at first.  He was expecting his brother to always be there to save the day and fix his problems.

 

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30 minutes ago, Benji said:

It will probably be some kind of an opioid painkiller,  I imagine it's oxycodone.

Technically no, but it serves as a good umbrella term for recognising certain people will be more drawn to abuse drugs, alcohol etc.

no, its not a good umbrella term at all because its got nothing to do with their personality. 

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33 minutes ago, Clip said:

Why?? Some people tend to get addicted to all kinds of stuff more than others. I've seen this term being used here a lot and even by Gaga (I think she said that she had an addictive personality and that she got addicted to fillers at some point in 2012)

why? because addiction is not a personality flaw. the cause of addiction is rooted in  the brain's reward system. 

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18 minutes ago, maxmore said:

why? because addiction is not a personality flaw. the cause of addiction is rooted in  the brain's reward system. 

What am I supposed to call it then?

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9 minutes ago, Clip said:

What am I supposed to call it then?

you can be addicted to more than one substance. in jacksons case, he was addicted to alcohlol and opiates. both are sedatives and produce similar effects which is why its not rare to be addicted to both. its got nothing to do with his personality. BIG difference! 

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43 minutes ago, Clip said:

Did you notice many new things when watching again?

I'm thinking about watching it for the second time this weekend but I'm not really sure

I've seen it 4 times (everyone wanted to see it with me since they know I love gaga) and going a 5th tomorrow. Every single time I notice something new, such as when I went last night - when bradley takes off her ring and says (safe keeping) did he ever give it back to her? Small stuff for sure. And also the way in which Bradley effortlessly developed an entire character with ticks, facial expressions, keeping the Tinnitus in mind, the way his voice is different when sober vs. not. This is truly a remarkable work of art. Also I tried so hard to not cry on my fourth showing, but that ending gets me EVERY single time.

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51 minutes ago, Clip said:

Did you notice many new things when watching again?

I'm thinking about watching it for the second time this weekend but I'm not really sure

You definitely should. I watched it again yesterday and I realized more things. When you know the ending, you realize more of the foreshadowing.

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like that he had actually planned for Ally to find the I'll Never Love Again lyrics when he would have already committed suicide, I was shaken

 

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For me it seemed Jackson first attempted to overdose and drive with the car to commit suicide via an "accident" as the main male role in 1976's ASIB did. But it didn't work so he took his belt and hung himself, bc that's something he knew how to do it (sadly :(  ).

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I definitely misinterpreted something :poot:  :vegas:  :selena: 

 

Ew, David!
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