Taylor Swift is a National Hero

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[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, Admin said:

You're not wrong. This is getting insane media coverage and is definitely having impact.

You could argue that this is "calculated" and "too late" but I think it's brave. Unlike Gaga or any other pop star really, her fanbase is like 50% republican. It takes balls to cut off half of your fanbase and willingly downgrade yourself from performing in stadiums to arenas.

70 percent of white millennial women are Democrats. That doesn't include those who identify as Independents. Her fanbase isn't 50 per cent Republican.  She won't be playing stadiums because she is supporting a conservative Democrat in the state of Tennessee, one that was a beloved Governor by Republicans and Democrats. 

[weed 73,126]

Y'all really gotta stop taking sipthistea so seriously lmao like do y'all purposefully wipe your memory of all of their satire threads or what

but even with the satire, preach sis!  honestly getting more media coverage than I expected lol makes me excited

[Dominic 11,922]

1 hour ago, Whispering said:

70 percent of white millennial women are Democrats. That doesn't include those who identify as Independents. Her fanbase isn't 50 per cent Republican.  She won't be playing stadiums because she is supporting a conservative Democrat in the state of Tennessee, one that was a beloved Governor by Republicans and Democrats. 

I think it was just hyperbole tbh but a lot of her fanbase are Republicans. She either thought or was advised that staying neutral wouldn't isolate any of her fanbase but really staying quiet is probably the worst thing you can do right now so it backfired. It makes sense for her to side Democrat (from a business standpoint) because as you say a majority of her fanbase are more left-learning.

I agree with admin that it's brave however i would also argue that it's definitely very calculated. 

[Yuuri 21,636]

She's the next Lana Winters.

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

I appreciate the OP post in that in honors Taylor, but let's get a few things straight:

1. We have no confirmation that Taylor was ever a republican. People just made this up in their minds.

2. Taylor's fan base is not "50% republican", it's most likely more adbundant with dems ever since she went pop and mentioned same sex relationships in 1989. You know how many gays I saw at the reputation Stadium Tour?

[StrawberryBlond 14,689]

This woman's getting way too much credit. She's being credited for creating all these new voter registrations in the 24 hours since she made her speech. More like it happened because it was almost the closing date for voting registration. We don't seriously know how many people she converted, if at all. It's good that she finally spoke up but doing it after her US leg was over and she'd got all her money from her biggest demographic is telling. Businesswoman through and through. Business sense (to an extent), yes, national hero, not even close.

[LeJudas 6,490]

Can we get her to post a link to the A Star Is Born tickets at an inflated price? 

[Whispering 18,865]

4 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

This woman's getting way too much credit. She's being credited for creating all these new voter registrations in the 24 hours since she made her speech. More like it happened because it was almost the closing date for voting registration. We don't seriously know how many people she converted, if at all. It's good that she finally spoke up but doing it after her US leg was over and she'd got all her money from her biggest demographic is telling. Businesswoman through and through. Business sense (to an extent), yes, national hero, not even close.

Her biggest demographic is white female millennials. Seventy per cent of that demo is Democratic. The other thirty per cent would be split between Independents and Republicans...Republicans who very well may not care about a Senate race in Tennessee. 

You are correct, she was smart for waiting until the NA tour was over. Can you imagine the crazies that would come out to protest? All those young girls and young adult women would have been confronted with that mess. It could end up in a potentially dangerous situation. You never know nowadays! 

[StrawberryBlond 14,689]

On 10/10/2018 at 3:30 AM, Whispering said:

Her biggest demographic is white female millennials. Seventy per cent of that demo is Democratic. The other thirty per cent would be split between Independents and Republicans...Republicans who very well may not care about a Senate race in Tennessee. 

You are correct, she was smart for waiting until the NA tour was over. Can you imagine the crazies that would come out to protest? All those young girls and young adult women would have been confronted with that mess. It could end up in a potentially dangerous situation. You never know nowadays! 

I was talking more about demographics in terms of geographical location. North Americans are her #1 demographic and you don't want to rock the boat with that regardless of what your views are. So many people don't want popstars to be political or take themselves too seriously and maybe she felt that saying this before her tour would have alienated too many people for whatever reason. But even if 70% of her demographic is Democratic, that other 30% still counts for something. She's always been and still is wildly popular in red states and they all majority voted Trump, right? It doesn't really matter what state she was focusing on - lots of people don't like being preached to by celebrities when it comes to what they should think politically. And you also have to consider the potential Republican parents of her very young fans, who fund their child's obsession by giving them permission and money to buy the albums and tickets. Republican parents are renowed for only allowing their children to follow artists they approve of. If Taylor makes it clear she's democratic and is against the values they're wishing to instill in their children, that's going to make a difference.

Oh, please, I hardly think people would show up to protest her concerts. The only protests concerts get in America is from puritanical fundamentalist Christians and hateful organisations like WBC when an artist has shown support for the LGBT community. I don't even hear about artists shows getting picketed when they've committed a crime. People aren't going to waste their time protesting a singer who had different political views than them. How people are dealing with that now is they stop supporting them, give them no attention and hit them where it hurts - the pay packet. No need to make a song and dance about it.

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Yes she is a hero to me ♥️♥️♥️

[Mus 7,883]

I knew it was you who made this thread

[socotra 3,295]

This likely will impact certain voters and sway them, and no matter how many voters are swayed, I still applaud her for taking a stand knowing a large part of her fanbase consists of conservative/right-leaning/Trump-sympathetic people. 

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But even if 70% of her demographic is Democratic, that other 30% still counts for something. She's always been and still is wildly popular in red states and they all majority voted Trump, right? It doesn't really matter what state she was focusing on - lots of people don't like being preached to by celebrities when it comes to what they should think politically. 

Oh, please, I hardly think people would show up to protest her concerts. The only protests concerts get in America is from puritanical fundamentalist Christians and hateful organisations like WBC when an artist has shown support for the LGBT community. I don't even hear about artists shows getting picketed when they've committed a crime. People aren't going to waste their time protesting a singer who had different political views than them. How people are dealing with that now is they stop supporting them, give them no attention and hit them where it hurts - the pay packet. No need to make a song and dance about it.

The other thirty per cent would be split between Republicans and Independents. Red states? It depends- the cities are Democratic and the rural areas are Republican. 

You never know, those White Nationalist Groups are pretty crazy- can't be too careful nowadays. 

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9 minutes ago, Whispering said:

The other thirty per cent would be split between Republicans and Independents. Red states? It depends- the cities are Democratic and the rural areas are Republican. 

You never know, those White Nationalist Groups are pretty crazy- can't be too careful nowadays. 

Independents can go either which way, though. And being an Independent voter is hardly a full-time label. When push comes to shove, most go for either of the big 2 parties as they're the only ones who stand a real chance, so your vote isn't wasted.

White nationalists don't protest the concerts of celebrities they don't like, they prefer political rallies over the big issues. Plus, at the end of the day, they're not going to properly denounce a fellow white. While some of them do engage in the "eating their own" mentality, they make a point of trying not to do it.