"Shallow" is the result of working with a vocal engineer as a producer

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15 minutes ago, tomdsgn said:

You think? The structure (verse verse bridge chorus chorus) is very atypical imo

So what? I can't at y'all (not you specifically). Just because there's a song that doesn't have the same old Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus, Bridge, Chorus structure that has been overdone forever doesn't make a song bad. 

I suggest you all (not you specifically) listen to some MUSIC. And by music I mean songs that are not in the BB100 and you'll see all the things that are actually possible in music. 

I'm a songwriter myself and I am reluctant to use the VCVCBC structure because I think it's boring and cheesy. It just frustrates me how people build their own boxes by only consuming what is put in front of them by the mass media and deem everything bad or unusual that doesn't follow a commercial cookie-cutter pattern.

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45 minutes ago, tomsches said:

So what? I can't at y'all (not you specifically). Just because there's a song that doesn't have the same old Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus, Bridge, Chorus structure that has been overdone forever doesn't make a song bad. 

I suggest you all (not you specifically) listen to some MUSIC. And by music I mean songs that are not in the BB100 and you'll see all the things that are actually possible in music. 

I'm a songwriter myself and I am reluctant to use the VCVCBC structure because I think it's boring and cheesy. It just frustrates me how people build their own boxes by only consuming what is put in front of them by the mass media and deem everything bad or unusual that doesn't follow a commercial cookie-cutter pattern.

You said it was normal pop structure, I said it’s not. That’s literally all I said to you. I didn’t say whether it was good or bad, or if I liked it or not.