Joaquin Phoenix seen filming Joker in full makeup

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48 minutes ago, Monster7 said:

I miss the times when superhero movies were not part of a bigger universe, giving more freedom to directors and writers, and time for them to make a better movie. I wish this Joker film ends up being just a Joker standalone, period.

That’s exactly what it is, and that’s why Joaquin took the role. It’s a an exploration of how a real human would be driven to become what we know as the Joker. 

The film has some serious talent involved and Joaquin Phoenix does NOT choose his roles lightly, and he’s never given a performance that hasn’t received universal acclaim. This movie has me interested. 

[Bradley 59,157]

13 hours ago, River said:

It was revealed last year or a year before in the comics that there are 3 Jokers.. so I thought they are going with this path..

https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/07/21/who-are-the-three-jokers-/

*It's full of spoilers*

But if it's not DCEU so I guess I'm wrong..

idk what they are doing anymore.. at this moment there are: CW universe, Joker movie universe, Titans+ Doom Patrol universe and DCEU..

 

Movie and TV series universes do not blend. So far for cinematic universes, there's only DCEU and this whole new one Joker is starting.

Sort of like how Venom and X-Men are separate from the MCU, though there have been reports claiming that Venom wants to be part of Spider-Man: Homecoming, which is actually part of MCU. I do think Venom is a standalone and will not have much to do with MCU though.

[Bradley 59,157]

13 hours ago, Spock said:

too bad it's going to flop 

Bring your negativity elsewhere.

This is the same thing people said about A Star Is Born when Bradley and Gaga were announced to be involved.

[Bradley 59,157]

13 hours ago, AddMeOnMYSPACE said:

ugh another joker movie, I'm so tired of the batman franchise as being "Dark and serious". I bet the DCEU only knows certain batman comic books like "The long Halloween, the killing joke, or the dark knight returns".those comic books are good but they don't really show who batman really is. I wanna see batman face another villain, like queen scarecrow or Poison ivy.

So far the only good batman movie is "The Mask of phantasm" 

Usually the bigger villains are introduced first before they go onto supporting characters, as long as they keep making movies, they will need to introduce more villains and Poison Ivy will have a chance in the future.

It would be awesome though cause we haven't really seen Poison Ivy in cinema.

[Bradley 59,157]

13 hours ago, Panchecco said:

I loved Jared's version because it was very modern and fresh (and I would love to see him again - I still believe they should have made a Harley X Joker movie before making Suicide Squad tbh) but I am excited about this new version!

From what we've seen so far he seems a sort of Joker hybrid that borrows from most of the previous incarnations... I'll be curious to see if he will be able to not rely as much on that and deliver a fresh performance

Jared was really different from any kind of Joker we had ever seen, which is interesting. He was also praised for his performance in Suicide Squad, it would be pretty cool to see him act in a whole movie dedicated to him, since Suicide Squad was definitely not sufficient to do him justice.

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1 hour ago, Bradley said:

Bring your negativity elsewhere.

This is the same thing people said about A Star Is Born when Bradley and Gaga were announced to be involved.

ASIB has nothing to do with DC  besides, the only successful DCEU movie has been WW, the rest have been trashed by everyone and deemed a flop. So statistics aren’t on this Joker movie’s side 

and I was kidding anyways, no need to pop like a cork 

[Bradley 59,157]

10 minutes ago, Spock said:

ASIB has nothing to do with DC  besides, the only successful DCEU movie has been WW, the rest have been trashed by everyone and deemed a flop. So statistics aren’t on this Joker movie’s side 

and I was kidding anyways, no need to pop like a cork 

It doesn't matter if ASIB is DC or not. You resemble those initial doubters before a project even came out.

It is like critiquing a movie you have not seen, which makes you prejudiced and your opinions not worthy of being paid attention to.

Besides, Joker is not part of DCEU. How about you do your research before giving flop comments?

DCEU might not be critically acclaimed but it's still consistent in generating profits, with each film grossing between $650 to $800 million dollars.

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29 minutes ago, Bradley said:

It doesn't matter if ASIB is DC or not. You resemble those initial doubters before a project even came out.

It is like critiquing a movie you have not seen, which makes you prejudiced and your opinions not worthy of being paid attention to.

Besides, Joker is not part of DCEU. How about you do your research before giving flop comments?

DCEU might not be critically acclaimed but it's still consistent in generating profits, with each film grossing between $650 to $800 million dollars.

I have to laugh you’re using the “educate yourself” line on me  i’m perfectly well aware this isn’t part of the DCEU, but if there’s one thing WB has been consistent on since Man of Steel, heck since Green Lantern, is that they do not know how to handle the DC property, regardless of how much money they’re making. 

Money isn’t a determining factor of success anymore, which the DC movies themselves are proving. Justice League made a ridiculous amount of money, but it still didn’t break even and was outgrossed by a third tier superhero character.

You’re the one who apparently needs to do research, because grossing $650 to $800 million dollars doesn’t mean a movie is profitable. Especially for movies like these. There’s marketing costs to factor in, back end and distribution deals to pay etc. Order of the Phoenix famously grossed almost $1B but it still lost WB over $100 million dollars, even while having a really good multiplier. But I digresss

I haven’t seen the movie so I have nothing to say on it, I was just having a laugh. But it’s not me being “prejudiced” lmao it’s just looking at the facts and statistics, which is even what people do for a living in Hollywood. Are they prejudiced?  

anyways, I’m going to say that I’m happy things seem to be turning around with Aquaman and Shazam and stop my essay here

enjoy the movie!

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Not only is Joaquin an incredible actor, the movie is being handled by some pretty great writers and a decent director too. The fact that hype is already surrounding this project when filming has only just started is really telling. This is what people want from DC, and I have good feelings about it.

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On 9/25/2018 at 5:17 AM, River said:

So I guess they are really bringing the "3 Jokers" thing to the DCEU, interesting, but hope they will do it right this time.

This probably won't be a thing. The origin film will be part of a universe separate from the DCEU. Also, I have no clue where they're going to take Jared Leto's Joker, though I do like the fan theory that he is Jason Todd. I can't imagine the dude behind Suicide Squad writing something that good though. Jared Leto is a talented actor, but his Joker just didn't work. Imo they should just focus on Birds of Prey instead, since Margot Robbie/Harley Quinn is the only thing that escaped Suicide Squad unscathed.

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On 9/24/2018 at 2:56 PM, AddMeOnMYSPACE said:

ugh another joker movie, I'm so tired of the batman franchise as being "Dark and serious". I bet the DCEU only knows certain batman comic books like "The long Halloween, the killing joke, or the dark knight returns".those comic books are good but they don't really show who batman really is. I wanna see batman face another villain, like queen scarecrow or Poison ivy.

So far the only good batman movie is "The Mask of phantasm" 

I loved The Dark Knight and Batman Begins. I think both capture much of Batman’s mystique well. However, I will concede Mask of Phantasm is great. I’d also add Return of the Joker.

 

also this isn’t the DCEU. It’s a separate origin story not tied to the larger universe that I have a feeling is being abandoned.

[Ziggy 11,868]

Y’all. This is a separate film that has nothing to do with the DCEU. So think of this like the dark knight trilogy. It exists on its own not beholden to anything else. That’s why Joaquin is in it and why people are excited for it. Plus, Scorsese is producing it, keep in mind. This one ain’t playin’.

As a lifelong fan of DC, this is something I’m deeply interested in: something ambitious and artistically unique. That’s often where DC shines over Marvel so if they stick with one-offs over larger universe films that’s A-OK by me. The DC Elseworlds titles have always attracted great talent and ideas that you don’t see in the mainstream stuff. If this movie spurs that then I consider it a roaring success. I’d love to see greater exploration into characters like Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow. Batman Begins did a fair job with the latter but he was something of a patsy villain. There’s still a lot to explore with him or even with bigger heroes like Superman. Tell an ambitious immigrant’s story and you have a modern, relevant Superman. Just make sure Zack Snyder steers clear of it.

[Ziggy 11,868]

Side note: I love the Cesar Romero-inspired suit. I’m super curious to see how this universe looks.

[River 117,243]

1 hour ago, Nymphia said:

This probably won't be a thing. The origin film will be part of a universe separate from the DCEU. Also, I have no clue where they're going to take Jared Leto's Joker, though I do like the fan theory that he is Jason Todd. I can't imagine the dude behind Suicide Squad writing something that good though. Jared Leto is a talented actor, but his Joker just didn't work. Imo they should just focus on Birds of Prey instead, since Margot Robbie/Harley Quinn is the only thing that escaped Suicide Squad unscathed.

I think DC is struggling to find their place and their vision, imo Jared's Joker along with the Squad are gone from the DCEU..

They probably going to focus on WW, Aquaman and the Flash.. and they will leave Gotham behind..

I think they need to stick with stand alone movies and to give the jobs for better directors..

I didn't like Margot's Harley, It felt for me that her purpose is to be the crazy sexy girl and that's it, but Harley is more than that.. they literally killed the soul of the character.. Margot is a great and talented actress and they failed to give her a proper script, where she could shine..

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8 minutes ago, River said:

I think DC is struggling to find their place and their vision, imo Jared's Joker along with the Squad are gone from the DCEU..

They probably going to focus on WW, Aquaman and the Flash.. and they will leave Gotham behind..

I think they need to stick with stand alone movies and to give the jobs for better directors..

I didn't like Margot's Harley, It felt for me that her purpose is to be the crazy sexy girl and that's it, but Harley is more than that.. they literally killed the soul of the character.. Margot is a great and talented actress and they failed to give her a proper script, where she could shine..

Yeah it's probably better that way. I hope they find their footing eventually (and I'm confident they're already in the early stages of doing so), bc I love these characters and want so much for them to succeed.

As for SS Harley, I guess I kind of agree that her design is definitely male-gazey, but I feel like it's not too far-fetched that Harley Quinn would be like that. While  BTAS Harley with her jester outfit will always be my favorite incarnation of her, the SS version also captures the playful side of Harley pretty well imo. My main gripe with SS Harley is the way they portrayed her as "Joker's obsessed girlfriend!!!" rather than a character of her own. And yeah, I didn't like the way they portrayed her "craziness" either, it was a little cringy at times. Still love Harley tho.

I have a lot of faith in Margot's vision as she understands Harley pretty well as a character, and also understands that she shines best when away from the Joker.