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Why I think taking too much time in making an album is not good for gaga.


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4 minutes ago, monketsharona said:

Yeah true but the music wasn't written for herself... I wouldn't expect her for exemple to perform those at Enigma shows... 

It's new Lady Gaga music, is the point. She wrote it, she is credited for it. When people buy the album, that money goes in her pocket. When people stream it, her monthly listener count on Spotify goes up. So you can't just ignore it and say "Oh we haven't had any new music in two years!" 

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16 minutes ago, seashellartfunk said:

There was no “decay of the popstar” original concept and she confirmed that several times during the BTW Ball backstage experiences. Also, when she talked to Entertainment Weekly about her re-igniting inspiration from “the art of darkness”, she never initiated it’d be related to her then-forthcoming album creation, so once again, it’s only a story fans automatically connected and wanted to believe in.

Update: However, I agree the results are best when she doesn’t take too much time (see: The Fame Monster, Joanne).

*it took only about 6 months for her to write + produce the entirety of Joanne.

She said in the golden globes that ahs and the art of darkness will inspire her next album which is lg5 during that time ...

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19 minutes ago, River said:

The original ARTPOP "the decay".. it's once again another thing that the fans created..

Gaga is sharing IDEAS with the fans, it doesn't mean she'll make them happen.. and musician is evolving through the creation of an album.. if only you knew how many songs MJ, Queen, Bowie has scrapped lol

Princess die is a scrapped song from ARTPOP and she clearly she's talking about the decay of the blonde in that song..  Pay some intention to the lyrics.  also focus on some of the ARTPOP songs like Mary Jane Holland and u will see that the theme of the decay of the blonde was truly a thing in the early ARTPOP concept .

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I think the final product is the most important thing, and the one that is being judged by audience and critics.

ARTPOP and Joanne are both amazing albums that I enjoyed immensely, so I wouldn't care how much time she spent making each of these albums.

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i really think if she does a song with bloodpop, boysnoize, sophie ect... it might better be released in time. will the thing hey did in this spring still sound fresh on the radio in 2020?

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I would like to see Gaga releasing more of her trendy or experimental type music in the mean time between high-effort, glossy, timeless album releases. Mixtapes or promo singles between albums would give her a clear way to explore the Lady and Gaga sides of her musical interest while satisfying fans of both varieties. I wonder if there is a contractual issue preventing her from releasing more music. Or maybe what she has been writing lately has all been intended for a specific project.

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53 minutes ago, Anisko said:

Princess die is a scrapped song from ARTPOP and she clearly she's talking about the decay of the blonde in that song..  Pay some intention to the lyrics.  also focus on some of the ARTPOP songs like Mary Jane Holland and u will see that the theme of the decay of the blonde was truly a thing in the early ARTPOP concept .

It's one song, that somehow talks about the decay, which is something that the fans came with.. Gaga never said this title out of her mouth.

And you can't build a whole conspiracy from one song.. there are no other evidences that this was the original concept..

Same with the "original LG5", she recorded 1 demo out of it for Angel Down, which had the same concept of Joanne.. so LG5 was never a intended to be a pop album, it's something that the fans came with after many rumors of "insiders"...

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ARTPOP took longer to create because she also got her hip surgery. other than that all her albums are done in a short time to be honest. 

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I think people also overlook that since her peak (which I think most would agree is generally The Fame to Born This Way, with Marry the Night marking the end of that run on top) she's only released two solo albums, and one of them was essentially a country album that went completely against the grain of what was popular in music.

So, she essentially has released just one pop album in the last 8 years, which to me suggests Gaga just isn't interested in really being a popstar anymore... at least in the way she was in the TF-TFM-BTW eras. I think that's been the overarching story with this fandom and with Gaga herself since ARTPOP.

That album left a sour taste in her mouth, so it's no surprise that she's done virtually everything except pop: she made a jazz album, she made an acoustic/country album, she starred in AHS and now in ASIB. I don't know if the length of time in creating an album is so much what's happening as is that she'd rather do a variety of other things. I don't blame her. ARTPOP was a time of trauma for her; her public image completely collapsed, the album was lampooned by everyone but her core base, she was abandoned by management, and to boot, she was coming out of the physical pain she'd endured in breaking her hip. She cared deeply about ARTPOP and to have that happen to it is not something one can get over easily. It might be that she fears something like will happen again. 

It's not a surprise that having gone through that, she's weary of returning to pop and is maybe more apprehensive about releasing more music in her first genre.  

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I don't think it works like that though. I can't speak about the pre-ARTPOP era because I became a fan during ARTPOP and honestly I don't know too much about what she "promised" or said she was going to do for ARTPOP, but I can speak on the pre-Joanne days.

It was obvious that she was going to go another route. The reason why she switched up Joanne was of Bowie's death and the night of the Oscars (where she sang Til' It Happens To You). Now you could argue that because she took a long time to release LG5, Bowie's death wouldn't have necessarily interfered with her album release, but at the same time, her waiting to release an album wasn't in and of itself the reason why she changed the original LG5.

Gaga will release music that she feels like she wants to do at the time. That's as complicated as it gets. Saying that TFM and BTW are her best works is subjective because honestly, I loved ARTPOP and Joanne much more than TFM—BTW ties for me. Also, for all we know, perhaps the original LG5 could have been worse than Joanne. I'm always confused when people just assume that the original LG5 would have bop, after bop, after bop, after bop, etc. 

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1. She records all the time, testing new sounds before crystallising her ideas on the concept of the album. 

2. She recorded the follow up to ARTPOP over 2 years or maybe even longer, but the actual process of making Joanne took 6 months. 

3. I agree with you that she shouldn’t take too much time, but it really depends on one’s inspiration level. It might seem years overall recoding demos and testi new sounds but when iinspiration hits you ... the actual bulk of the work probably only takes weeks. 

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3 hours ago, Anisko said:

I think gaga is amongst the few musicians in the industry that can make a masterpiece in a short limited time and this is the case with her most iconic 2 albums the fame monsters and born this way..  Please don't get me wrong I don't mean to say that her other albums like ARTPOP AND joanne are not good but honestly there're not in the same level as her past albums at least in my opinion..  My theory is that gaga like everybody knew she's a perfectionist and when she take years in making an album she will finally get bored of the sound of it and scrapped the project to work in new one and that happened with the original ARTPOP concept that she teased so much during the born this way ball (the decay of the blonde pop star) and the original lg5 that she said it's inspired by the art of the darkness ... 

For me and in my opinion gaga can really make wonders in a short time and that's really a good thing and not every artist have the talent to make something like the fame monsters in 3 months..  She needs to knew that's she 's not Adele or lorde to make an album in 5 years (I don't mean to compare and I'm a fan of their music)  but she's a better artist and musicians in my opinion..  

I hope she will prove me wrong with lg6 of course if she will not scrapped it .

What do u think guys? 

But Joanne was made in 6-7 months, and you call it a lesser album.

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