Will the GP Reject CrazyGa?

[ryanripley 86,575]

Just now, Vergil said:

2015-2018 says otherwise

if anything, 2015 - 2018 proves his comment right lol

[josephalexander 156]

Just now, Vergil said:

2015-2018 says otherwise

I think that’s what she needed and wanted to do for herself, though. I don’t think Gaga would ever do something just to satisfy the “GP”... Joanne was an important moment for her and she approached it how she saw fit. That’s what makes her an artist. 

[Reginald 13,841]

29 minutes ago, Gonzi said:

This tweet blowing up out of nowhere should answer your question

I think today's pop culture is lacking some of what Gaga can offer and successfully deliver.

WIG, almost half of a million likes! 

[Guest]

At this point I think she can go whichever way. People love crazy gaga they were just burnt outve it by 2013 lol

[JazzGa 14,621]

Your narrative of her "craziness" and the GP's perception of her is... dubious...

First of all, she didn't suddenly stop being "crazy" after 2013, some of her wildest looks were served after that.

Second, the "Gee Pee" (why do we discoos them so much here) didn't give her backlash the entire span of 2008-2013 and then it stopped. O_o She was hugely praised when she first hit the scene, remember her being the most famous person in the entire world? Of course there were always some haters. There still are plenty. There is just more evidence that they are wrong now

[geopang 4,831]

Why does it matter if the GP reject her? It’s her loyal fans and her artistic integrity that matter the most in my opinion. 

[Ronk 14,762]

They rejected crazyGa from the start.  I know.   I was one of them.  I rejected her until late in 2010 when I discovered she is a nice, kind person who helps others.  I didn't like her outlandish costumes and persona because I didn't understand it.  Then I found interviews on Ellen and Oprah where she explained the reasoning behind her costumes and performance art.  It took a long time to convince my friends that behind the crazyGa image is a good person.

I fear that she would lose support of many.  But those who have learned what she is like as a person will stay with her.  I think she is on the cusp of gaining the support of an audience several times the size of her crazyGa fanbase.  While it's hard to think of millions of fans as a niche, monsters really are a niche audience.  Many will say "Who cares?", but I want her to find she is loved as close to universally as possible.  She cried when she received a standing ovation for her Sound Of Music tribute.  https://vimeo.com/289195338/a13f9c17f1

She cried again now  when she received a standing ovation in Toronto.  36:00 into this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2177&v=ISYvmvM7wy8

She's human, and being loved means a lot to her.

[MsSwan 1,379]

15 minutes ago, Ronk said:

They rejected crazyGa from the start.  I know.   I was one of them.  I rejected her until late in 2010 when I discovered she is a nice, kind person who helps others.  I didn't like her outlandish costumes and persona because I didn't understand it.  Then I found interviews on Ellen and Oprah where she explained the reasoning behind her costumes and performance art.  It took a long time to convince my friends that behind the crazyGa image is a good person.

I fear that she would lose support of many.  But those who have learned what she is like as a person will stay with her.  I think she is on the cusp of gaining the support of an audience several times the size of her crazyGa fanbase.  While it's hard to think of millions of fans as a niche, monsters really are a niche audience.  Many will say "Who cares?", but I want her to find she is loved as close to universally as possible.  She cried when she received a standing ovation for her Sound Of Music tribute.  https://vimeo.com/289195338/a13f9c17f1

She cried again now  when she received a standing ovation in Toronto.  36:00 into this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2177&v=ISYvmvM7wy8

She's human, and being loved means a lot to her.

Great analysis, I could name so many times that same initial perspective has rang true among  anyone I know/have met. I think she’ll be doing something along the lines of the set of Instagram photos with the octopuss. Old school glamour with a wrinkle of quirky weirdness. 

 

 

[Ziggy 11,866]

2 hours ago, SHALLOW said:

Mhh idk sis... maybe you’re right. I didn’t think about the fact that the pre joanne era doesn’t include 2015 cause she was making the original LG5 back then, so i was comparing the joanne era looks with the 2015 ones

Her pre-BTW garb very much inspired BTW, same for the pre ARTPOP wilder looks and high princess carefree aesthetic. If you look for pre-Joanne looks you can kind of see it. It’s a little hard, though, because she was very sequestered before the album dropped because she wrote it all so quickly.

[Battle 4 Ur Life 6,716]

oh I hope they do, and also the GP can choke.

who cares tbh. but I’m sure the new music is mind-blowing so no. it’s super in to like Gaga again.

[StJerome 164]

I reject this idea. “CrazyGa” and “Lady vs Gaga” are classifications I think she would really find problematic that her fanbase perceives of her. All these eras have come from the same woman.

”GP reaction” is something she just doesn’t conform to. How many times has she said it? Bad Romance was a record breaking achievement in terms of sales and engagement and it was shocking, disturbing, and ridiculous. And she’s also had the same success with ‘safer’ work, which we’re seeing now with ASIB. 

She will always be her. And she’s creating work for US, and her family, and herself. That might be like Million Reasons, or C2C, or it might be like Poker Face. You just don’t know where the ball is going to end up on the roulette next time. You’re watching the most legendary artist of your generation find her inspiration and create her catalog in real time.

[Vergil 2,296]

10 hours ago, ryanripley said:

if anything, 2015 - 2018 proves his comment right lol

lmao no, she and her team have been craving for gp's approval since ARTPOP's fiasco. 

[ryanripley 86,575]

Just now, Vergil said:

lmao no, she and her team have been craving for gp's approval since ARTPOP's fiasco. 

because nothing says GP approval like jazz and folk/country inspired pop album in a music industry dominated by hip hop and trap and swinging a tentacle from your mouth at Coachella 

it's obvious she does what she wants lol yes she needs GP approval (i mean she's a popstar with one of the most disloyal fanbases) but she hasn't been 100% pandering. if she wanted absolute GP approval, Joanne wouldn't exist and we'd either had LG6 or a bunch of singles until one was a hit rn

[RAMROD 109,634]

Hmm, maybe not. They will be just like  "Oh, Yetta! She gone Gaga again! "

[SpeechIess 1,060]

I mean, the GP seems to be excited for ASIB and lavishing in her latest ventures. I think it'll just come down to if she produces top quality pop bops that everyone loves. ASIB OST seems to be going down a treat too, we'll actually see when it's released. But I think she's won the majority of the GP over again, they've probably come to the conclusion the industry is sort of lacking what Gaga gave a decade ago, along with a few other artists. But time will tell.