NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'm sorry if y'all have already talked about it but this hit me this morning. When she says "I'm beautiful in my way, cause God makes no mistake", it doesn't convince me at all tbh, probably because I don't believe in God. But what is surprising is that she seems to say that God made us the way we are so he made us gay, bi, trans etc... But this is not at all what says the Bible and every believer will hardly disagree. the Bible say that it's a sin for a man to have sex with another so saying that if we're gay that's just how God made us......huge contradiction. And I'm kinda wondering how much of a believer Gaga is because if you truly believe in God, you respect everything he said (so everything that is in the Bible) so Gaga would be completely sinning with this song (well I guess I could name multiple other sins lol no shade). The second you consider that the Bible isn't relevant or fair, you admit that you don't agree with what God says, and we could even push it further. Since God is supposed to be perfect, if you admit that the Bible isn't, you admit that God doesn't exist, or at least that the Bible isn't God's words. How do you interpret that? How can you explain this contradiction? Discuss  Edit: guess this is not the right forum to have deep and clever discussions, sorry for those who wanted a debate on whether it's "Gaga" or "GaGa" Edit 2: thanks to some monsters who decided to discuss it instead of lmao it I noticed that my mistake was to interpret Born This Way as a self-acceptance song while it's also a song about accepting the others. Therefore, Gaga used God to prove the believers that they shouldn't be homophobic, saying smt like: okay the Bible tells you it's a sin to be homosexual, but God wouldn't make a mistake so that proves that being homosexual is just fine (so they're trapped in their own argument). Gaga has another vision of religion and what God is so BTW has no contradiction. I recommend you to read the second part of the thread, bc very interesting things have been said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,400 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I don't really think it's that deep. Gaga wanted to make a feel-good song and that's how it turned out  BTW (the song) is actually no lyrical masterpiece tbh. Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 oooohhhh y'all don't start lmao-ing me  or am I that dumb? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaIsDope 679 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 The bible was written by lots of different people over several centuries. If you believe in God, you do not need to agree with everything in the bible. It is not the direct word of God. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlpha 3,830 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I donât believe in a âGodâ neither. So I donât care about those lyrics. But my understanding is that nowhere in the Bible, thereâs mention of a man not being able to sleep with a man? Iâm not sure. However, hasnât the Bible been written from different viewpoints and most people (in general) interpret the Bible differently? If I believed in a âGodâ I certainly wouldnât trust any âholyâ book. But thatâs just me. You know this is just my opinion, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepentingSinner 2,641 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: he Bible say that it's a sin for a man to have sex with another no it doesnt. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 31,084 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I donât think I have the energy to get into these type of threads, especially not on mondays at 9 am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, TheAlpha said: I donât believe in a âGodâ neither. So I donât care about those lyrics. But my understanding is that nowhere in the Bible, thereâs mention of a man not being able to sleep with a man? check it once again sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, LittleLocoCoco said: no it doesnt. Â so every believer down here who claims that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible is wrong???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaIsDope 679 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, TheAlpha said: I donât believe in a âGodâ neither. So I donât care about those lyrics. But my understanding is that nowhere in the Bible, thereâs mention of a man not being able to sleep with a man? There is in Leviticus but for most christians the New Testament is much more important. As far as I know, it is not mentioned in the New Testament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepentingSinner 2,641 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: so every believer down here who claims that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible is wrong???? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, GagaIsDope said: The bible was written by lots of different people over several centuries. If you believe in God, you do not need to agree with everything in the bible. It is not the direct word of God. 2 minutes ago, TheAlpha said: I donât believe in a âGodâ neither. So I donât care about those lyrics. But my understanding is that nowhere in the Bible, thereâs mention of a man not being able to sleep with a man? Iâm not sure. However, hasnât the Bible being written by different people? I believed in a âGodâ I wouldnât trust the word of any human being. well I know a lot believers who take every word from the Bible very very seriously that's why I said that. Let me find a video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 your faulty assumption is that someone who believes in God also believes that the bible is infallible.  That is only the case for a minority of hard core christian religions.  Most others allow some interpretation based on cultural aspects for when the bible was written, or just ignore parts of it they don't agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 from 7:30 Hope y'all can hear the guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrion Rizzons 9,929 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 'god' didn't write the bible, some random as 'disciples' did. Then the romans changed it and made up some bs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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