Trudeau accused of "Radical Multiculturalism"

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I am TeamTrudeau he's got strong assets... 

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On 8/14/2018 at 2:35 AM, Melech said:

I never said Canadians can be bigoted as well.  that isn’t an argument to let other bigoted people in the country as well. 

Look at France. Due to mainly imported anti-semitism the Jewish population is declining. 

Judaism is equally as oppressive as islam and other large organized religions in my eyes. Being eithnically middle eastern or Ashkenazi doesn’t make you a bad perosn imo. 

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As said in that article I read about a recent US survey on the positive impact of diversity: only white people can never experience being asked if their presence in their own country is beneficial/advantageous. Yikes.

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46 minutes ago, Margaux said:

Judaism is equally as oppressive as islam and other large organized religions in my eyes. Being eithnically middle eastern or Ashkenazi doesn’t make you a bad perosn imo. 

Judaism doesn’t want to convert people, there is a difference. But it can be sexist, homophobic, too. Anyway, you totally missed my points. Congrats for that.

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20 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

That's why immigration is massively restricted in Asian countries and is actually impossible in some. I have frequently heard Japanese citizens claim that they don't want immigration as it will kill off their culture. I never see liberals picking on them for having these beliefs.

 

I wonder where and how often you actually had face to face discussions about immigration with Japanese citizens? How many have you met in your life? You frequently heard this claim from them, is this really true? Or is this from another populist YouTube video? There are few false claims about Japan from the Western conservatives, so I’m just wondering... since you FREQUENTLY heard this.  

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14 hours ago, MonsterAura said:

And in Sweden we now have no-go zones where the police can’t even enter because it’s considered too dangerous, so I guess it’s not a one size fits all situation. 

 

1. What are these vulnerable areas everyone's talking about?

This debate began in 2015 when the Swedish police released a list of so-called "vulnerable areas" as part of their work to map the situation in some of the country's segregated suburbs. An updated report has now been released, which is likely to be the focus of a lot of discussion in the run-up to Sweden's general election in 2018.

The police definition of a “vulnerable area” is: “a geographically defined area characterized by a low socio-economic status where criminals have an impact on the local community. The impact is linked to the social context in the area rather than a wish to take power and control the community.”

 

2. Are they no-go zones?

Well, not really. This term caught on in international media after it was used by a columnist to label these areas, but police and emergency services have themselves repeatedly rejected it, arguing that these are areas with a higher police presence, if anything. That said, emergency services do often adapt their behaviour, for example by making sure that there is proper back-up, by entering the areas via alternative routes, or by reversing their vehicles into the areas in order to make sure they are able to leave quickly if needed. Emergency services have, for example, been exposed to threats, stone-throwing, or vandalism of their vehicles. But it's not black and white: often, nothing of note happens. 

A fire chief in an area which covers some of northern Stockholm's most vulnerable suburbs, including Rinkeby and Tensta, told The Local earlier this year: “We don't have any no-go zones, absolutely not, the opposite in fact. We move around in all areas, with the same force, at the same speed. But sometimes we get indications, or see, that something is not right and then we take precautions.”

 

https://www.thelocal.se/20170621/no-go-zones-what-you-need-to-know-about-swedens-vulnerable-aeas

 

Greetings from the neighbors. 

 

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Bernier is just bitter he lost the Conservative Leader bid. 

Stay racist. 

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3 hours ago, vivre sa vie said:

I am TeamTrudeau he's got strong assets... 

I mean he was a wrestler years ago

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3 hours ago, hunty said:

Do you really need that question answered? If a place has 50 people who accept lgbt marriage and 10 people come along who don't, is it more diverse? Yes. Is it less equal and less open? YES. 

No, because those 10 people can't suddenly change the laws of the country and take away anyone's rights. They can think as discriminatorily as they want to, but they still need to play by Canada's rules.

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Asian countries have immegration issues too, just not from Western culturres..  

Japan is crowded and very limited on natural resources,living space, and land...even if there was an influx , there is no place for them to stay.  

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Oh, I seen that 'radical multicultural' is a reference to LGBT tollerance...?

Humph!!!!

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14 hours ago, lego said:

 

I wonder where and how often you actually had face to face discussions about immigration with Japanese citizens? How many have you met in your life? You frequently heard this claim from them, is this really true? Or is this from another populist YouTube video? There are few false claims about Japan from the Western conservatives, so I’m just wondering... since you FREQUENTLY heard this.  

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/10/18/national/aso-says-japan-is-nation-of-one-race/

Still, when a heavyweight of the defeated Liberal Democratic Party unveiled a plan in 2008 calling for Japan to accept at least 10 million immigrants, opinion polls showed that a majority of Japanese were opposed. A survey of roughly 2,400 voters earlier this year by the daily Asahi Shimbun showed that 65 percent of respondents opposed a more open immigration policy

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/world/asia/03japan.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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1 hour ago, Melech said:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/10/18/national/aso-says-japan-is-nation-of-one-race/

Still, when a heavyweight of the defeated Liberal Democratic Party unveiled a plan in 2008 calling for Japan to accept at least 10 million immigrants, opinion polls showed that a majority of Japanese were opposed. A survey of roughly 2,400 voters earlier this year by the daily Asahi Shimbun showed that 65 percent of respondents opposed a more open immigration policy

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/world/asia/03japan.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

How many immigrants do they accept annually?

 

They have very aged demographics and low birth rates and shrinking population

 

They desperately need more immigrants

 

Edit: 145,000 last year and the population still fell they need more: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/second-cup-says-it-may-convert-ontario-coffee-shops-to-pot-shops-1.1124294

 

That's less than half what my Country with 1/4 the population accepts annually and our demographics are not half as bad as theirs

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53 minutes ago, Melech said:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/10/18/national/aso-says-japan-is-nation-of-one-race/

Still, when a heavyweight of the defeated Liberal Democratic Party unveiled a plan in 2008 calling for Japan to accept at least 10 million immigrants, opinion polls showed that a majority of Japanese were opposed. A survey of roughly 2,400 voters earlier this year by the daily Asahi Shimbun showed that 65 percent of respondents opposed a more open immigration policy

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/world/asia/03japan.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

This doesn’t answer my question and I believe I asked SB.

“I have frequently heard Japanese citizens claim that they don't want immigration as it will kill off their culture.” is quite specific claim. “THEY DON’T WANT IMMIGRATION AS IT WILL KILL OFF THEIR CULTURE”. 

 

Your sources are pretty outdated and who makes polls about “accepting 10 million” ??? “Japan is nation of one race”, we have those people in Europe too, are they our reference point now? Are you all agreeing with them?? 

 

Also lbr, this is about immigration from specific countries and Western conservatives share memes as facts, which snopes easily refuted 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/muslims-in-japan/

 

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22 hours ago, Melech said:

Judaism doesn’t want to convert people, there is a difference. But it can be sexist, homophobic, too. Anyway, you totally missed my points. Congrats for that.

What is your point. I’m not a fan or supporter of islam or saudi-Arabia  but I do honestly think most of your arguments  are more based in personal bias/sensationalism than any actual humanitarian concern. Jews in Williamsburg don’t want to “convert” people to Judiasm but do want the gen pop to follow their ideological laws. There’s multiple cases that are documented some also being filmed of Hasidic Jews assaulting women and lgbt individuals in Nyc. Bht it hasn’t done anything to affect the overall notion that Brooklyn ny is a progressive safe heaven. https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-hasidic-men-charged-with-assault-on-gay-black-man/

and most Christians ( including the Vice President of the US.).  believe in Christian laws being upheld on a state level. 

So I don’t necessarily think I miss your point you’ve made your point pretty clear and have been making these points for a while so it’s nothing new or shocking.