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Is Gaga's team too calculated?


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Killa
1 hour ago, Steve Nasty said:

Imagine if she had released ARTPOP in 2012, during the Fame perfume launch. She was feeling ARTPOP back then. It wouldn't be the same ARTPOP that we got but still.

Imagine if she had released a few of the Red One songs in 2015, and then still released Joanne in 2016. I mean why not? 

I think she feels locked into the "studio album > world tour > repeat" cycle. She doesn't have to tour with every album. I actually think she shouldn't considering her health. Idk I'm rambling.

But shes locked in the promotion cycle. 

She cant just lowkey release songs. And i completely agree she would feel the era more right when shes into it.

1 hour ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

No, I'm pretty sure Interscope wants to release as much Gaga as possible.

Im not so sure. Ofc the label gainz money the more music she puts out. But the investment might not pay off. 

The price for being a singer songwritter in pop music is too high. Theyre too scared of losing money with her

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Killa
54 minutes ago, Steve Nasty said:

Do we know this for sure? I can't remember

It was redone that spilled the tea last week or something.

And ronson was also sugguested by the label. Thai remember in some interview one and something year.

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16 minutes ago, Killa said:

It was redone that spilled the tea last week or something.

And ronson was also sugguested by the label. Thai remember in some interview one and something year.

I'm pretty sure it was her decision to go for a softer sound... I think she was working with RedOne for LG5 and just wanted to make a few songs with Mark, and then Joanne the song happened and they decided to build an album around it.

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1 hour ago, kevinsteve said:

The singles switches thing always turned out to be good decisions though.

Releasing Telephone instead of Alejandro was a great choice because the hype around Beyoncé being featured would have disappeared in time, and then Alejandro was helped by of the hype created by the iconic Telephone video.

Marry The Night would have never done better than The Edge of Glory. The Edge of Glory was way fresher and way more radio friendly. 

Most of the GP said that Do What U Want was pretty much the first Gaga song that they liked since The Fame Monster. Even with controversy and without music video, it did way better than Venus would have been able to do. 

And Million Reasons really helped selling Joanne. Every performance pushed it to #1 on iTunes, and it's mostly because it was easy for Gaga to make a great performance of it. A-YO is definitely more difficult to perform live, and even if if would've done better then Perfect Illusion, it just couldn't do better than Million Reasons. 

I'm not saying that I necessarily disagree with her single switches, but what I'm saying is that her team isn't all that calculated if they impulsively switch the singles every time. 

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1 minute ago, M Monstre said:

I'm not saying that I necessarily disagree with her single switches, but what I'm saying is that her team isn't all that calculated if they impulsively switch the singles every time. 

Well I guess it's because Gaga doesn’t make trendy songs, so they can't really predict the success of a song

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Killa
24 minutes ago, Jester said:

I'm pretty sure it was her decision to go for a softer sound... I think she was working with RedOne for LG5 and just wanted to make a few songs with Mark, and then Joanne the song happened and they decided to build an album around it.

The softer sound seems natural.

But her working with mark was said in some interview to be indication of the label. Though it seemed to be a natural decision. She might have articulated the first concept of joanne and they suggested mark for it

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Sneaky Oliver

I wouldn't say calculated. I think Interscope gives Gaga all the freedom to create her album but they will make anything to sell the hell out of it in return. So they choose the singles and switch them if necessary and come up with crazy promo schedules to make sure the cycle is successful

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she does what she has to. we all know now that LG6 is on the road, and we're gonna bop whatever, so why not just chill ? For example, Mickael Jackson didn't released that much music (and he was writing tons of songs)... she's got a great pace, and she aways tries her best to make us proud. As an artist she might be in a pursuit of something meaningful not just being a like a milking cow 

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16 minutes ago, brucee said:

she does what she has to. we all know now that LG6 is on the road, and we're gonna bop whatever, so why not just chill ? For example, Mickael Jackson didn't released that much music (and he was writing tons of songs)... she's got a great pace, and she aways tries her best to make us proud. As an artist she might be in a pursuit of something meaningful not just being a like a milking cow 

That is the problem, I think her artistry is suffering because of lack of releases

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ryanripley
2 minutes ago, Jester said:

That is the problem, I think her artistry is suffering because of lack of releases

that... doesn't make any sense lol :huh: 

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1 hour ago, ryanripley said:

that... doesn't make any sense lol :huh: 

I think it is, because as she is releasing way too long after, she's not really into it anymore or at least not as much as when she created it. Then the material released needs to be good enough to have a whole era for itself and during that time she's gonna work on new things which won't be released until the current era has ended. I think she should be more spontaneous now. She has a really great vibe and style whilst creating for an album and not releasing it. But when it comes to an official release it seems too artificial because it is in the end all about the money interscope can make out of it i guess; as if her creativity was limited by all the promo cycle etc. If it was less official she'd be more free, spontaneous and then more creative. 

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1 minute ago, Victor Oo said:

I think it is, because as she is releasing way too long after, she's not really into it anymore or at least not as much as when she created it. Then the material released needs to be good enough to have a whole era for itself and during that time she's gonna work on new things which won't be released until the current era has ended. I think she should be more spontaneous now. She has a really great vibe and style whilst creating for an album and not releasing it. But when it comes to an official release it seems too artificial because it is in the end all about the money interscope can make out of it i guess; as if her creativity was limited by all the promo cycle etc. If it was less official she'd be more free, spontaneous and then more creative. 

but she releases just as often as anyone else :emma: 

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"Gaga" and "calculated" don't belong in the same sentence.

I WISH the team was more calculated, more organized, smarter, etc.

Sadly they are not.

It is what it is.

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Arturo

I attribute her disdain for doing features on her artistic integrity. It's crazy that all 14 of her Top 10's on Billboard are lead songs by her. Many artists easily pass her number of hits because they do features and I don't see why a Calvin, DJ Snake, or Zedd feature would hurt on an off year (2012, 2015, late 2017/early 2018 etc) but she clearly doesn't like the idea of features.

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