Gay couple publically whipped under Sharia in Indonesia

[Regina George 59,387]

2 minutes ago, Melech said:

I post about all kind of stuff, but see the thing is that you want to prohibit my right to post whatever I want as long as it fits with GGD rules.

It's important that we talk about the things that happen in Indonesia. The gay community is vurnable. You don't want this sufferage of gay community not to be posted, because you fear of the image of an ideology. My question: do you support what happened in Indonesia? If no, then you wouldn't have a problem with thread.

Don’t twist my words. I have problem with what they did BUT it is national Indonesian law that is killing those people. Not Islam. Why don’t we make this about Indonesias law? Why are we making this about Islam? 

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, ReginaGeorge said:

Don’t twist my words. I have problem with what they did BUT it is national Indonesian law that is killing those people. Not Islam. Why don’t we make this about Indonesias law? Why are we making this about Islam? 

Because they are basing it on an interpretation of their ideology.

[Regina George 59,387]

6 minutes ago, Melech said:

Because they are basing it on an interpretation of their ideology.

Islam is not ideology and every religion there is is not ideology. Get over that concept. What they are doing is ideology but it is not Islam. 

[River 127,475]

14 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said:

Islam is not ideology and every religion there is is not ideology. Get over that concept. What they are doing is ideology but it is not Islam. 

You know there are many beautiful things in all the religions but there are awful things, we need to know them and to fix them.

so tell us what do you think is going to fix the homophobia and death sentence against gays in many islamic countries?

[thickandpetite 152]

Absolutely disgusting. It sickens me how people have this medieval mentality in 2018.

[gabeoz 7,915]

People here fail to understand that this is a regional issue and not an issue with Islam specifically.  To believe this is an issue with Islam specifically are... naive. You can claim it’s Islam all you want but it’s simply not true, Muslims in Western countries are far more moderate and largely more liberal as compared to extreme right-wing. It isn’t an issue of religion, but regional and political history. In fact, homosexuality used to be generally accepted in the Muslim world (more-so in different parts). Much homophobia in the Muslim world is a result of European colonialism. During the colonial era human rights for minority groups were severely eroded in the colonies. Most of today’s extreme homophobic laws and general beliefs is a result of decades of strict laws in these countries during their colonial era. And it’s not just seen in these Muslim countries, Christian Africa is strife with human rights violations against homosexuals, most of which is also a result of colonialism. All people here are doing is reinforcing islamaphobic attitudes.

[sourchromatican 74]

Religion is a false hope that was created to create peace but most religions use it as a source to harm others and the religions should just plain out die.

[Pharamon 6,839]

2 hours ago, Venusfly said:

Muslims immigrating to other countries isn't really a risk at all, the issue is religious governments. No religion should have power over a country's judicial system.

That's the most ignorant thing I've read today... How is that not a risk?

[Seringai 248]

1 hour ago, ReginaGeorge said:

And why are you always sharing propaganda against Islam. It’s not really hard to notice what you’re doing. You being from Israel says a lot about that matter because your country basically stole land from Palestinians and is basically murdering muslim civilians by bombarding hospitals and schools all the time. 

I notice it too, this user always share something against islam, idk why

[Melech 9,900]

46 minutes ago, gabeoz said:

People here fail to understand that this is a regional issue and not an issue with Islam specifically.  To believe this is an issue with Islam specifically are... naive. You can claim it’s Islam all you want but it’s simply not true, Muslims in Western countries are far more moderate and largely more liberal as compared to extreme right-wing. It isn’t an issue of religion, but regional and political history. In fact, homosexuality used to be generally accepted in the Muslim world (more-so in different parts). Much homophobia in the Muslim world is a result of European colonialism. During the colonial era human rights for minority groups were severely eroded in the colonies. Most of today’s extreme homophobic laws and general beliefs is a result of decades of strict laws in these countries during their colonial era. And it’s not just seen in these Muslim countries, Christian Africa is strife with human rights violations against homosexuals, most of which is also a result of colonialism. All people here are doing is reinforcing islamaphobic attitudes.

Much more moderate than muslim population in the Middle East, yes. But to the other parts I disagree. 50% of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be banned. And not all leads back to colonialism.

You want those threads not to be posted? Than you are siding with the homophobic people.

[witchcocktor 1,438]

2 hours ago, Venusfly said:

What?

The "most extreme christians" will only picket you? How about in Russia where gays are sent to death camps, or the United States where homophobes shoot people or assault them. Refusing to make people cakes and holding up "god hates f*gs" is scratching the surface of christian violence and you know it. Middle Eastern countries are more violent towards gays because they have religious governments which reinforce their homophobic beliefs instead of curbing them, which Christians no longer have.

We would not have this big of an issue without Islamic governments run by old timer extremists.

Chechnya is predominantly Muslim, not Christian.

The Pulse shooter was Omar Mateen, his family was described as being moderate Muslims.

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

This is why secularism should be pushed further. Political Islam/Judaism/Christianity is outdated and has no place in an era that recognizes human rights.

This isn't to say we ought to judge any person for their religion, only their actions when they attempt to force it upon others. Religion is between you and your god(s), not between you and other fellow human beings.

[venusfly 17,885]

55 minutes ago, Skrill said:

That's the most ignorant thing I've read today... How is that not a risk?

How are they more of a risk than any other group of individuals? They're risky to the economy, housing and the balance of culture in city areas but they're not a public safety issue. There is no evidence to prove so.

[venusfly 17,885]

5 minutes ago, witchcocktor said:

Chechnya is predominantly Muslim, not Christian.

My mistake, thank you for correction. I still don't believe Muslims are inherently more dangerous members of society though.

[ShockPop 7,747]

What reasoning does anyone have for me to pander to their religion?

By all means I will accommodate you if you've had no choice in something in life. If you're impaired, if you're gay or trans or... ginger. That's life and you can't help it.

However... You've chosen to follow a religion. That is YOUR choice and not mine.... but you want to force me to make acceptances for you? No thanks. You chose to follow the same religion that says warfare is justified if it is against people who "refuse to believe the truth". Honestly, pick up your holy book.

All religion is personal. If you expect others to make exceptions for you because of it then you've set your expectations incorrectly.

I personally think if you follow a religion it's due to some psychological difficulty or (gasp) being groomed from a young age (which is why people are christened as babies).