ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Claymore said: How about the cast of ''Pose''? Chock full of trans women giving Emmy worthy performances. Or Daniela Vega in ''A Fantastic Woman'' (that won an Oscar for Best Foreign Picture)? Acting like trans people are not being cast because they lack talent is gross. It's not even just Trans people not being cast, it's Trans people not being offered the chance to audition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, darkness said: Drag her And for everyone saying “ItS AcTiNg” educate yourself oh, you beat me to what I was thinking. Thanks. The offer to audition wasn't even thought of. They just selected her because she makes people splooge in their pants. She's never been nominated for an Oscar and she's getting desperate looking at her past roles she's taken (or rather given) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore 671 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ltlmnstr said: It's not even just Trans people not being cast, it's Trans people not being offered the chance to audition. Because producers/directors (and several members of this site) don't view trans people past their assigned gender at birth. So why shouldn't they hire a woman to drag up as a man? Truly disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore 671 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, darkness said: Funny you mention Pose because the problematic gays on this thread are reacting just like when Blanca wanted to enter in the bar, if you understand what I mean... That scene made me want to punch a wall. But lo and behold not much changed since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,648 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 hours ago, FATCAT said: I mean, they know movies, not the intricacies of Trans issues. Bad on their part not to coordinate with someone who does.. I just mean it’s common sense that people might be bristled by a non trans person playing a trans role. They were for Jared Leto, and people were even mad when ScarJo did Ghost in the Shell. It’s legitimately surprising that someone could have been so thoughtless lolol especially a producer since understanding the business is really the only reason you have them around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,648 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 16 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said: For Gods sake it’s just acting. People literally done this for years now. They could have literally cast male actor to play this role but they choose not to. It’s not common in Hollywood to find trans person that can act like her. She is talented and she’ll do this role justice. Honestly I can’t with overreaction in this thread. Everything is offensive now and no one seems to see this as representation of trans community in any way - but if you think about it it still is. ...frankly if I were trans I’d be pissed off that I’m supposed to accept what straight people choose to give me as visibility and representation. That’d be like if I had a white lady black face as Rosa Parks in a movie because “the actor is super talented” and then telling the black community how positive it is that they're even being deemed worth representing. This is profiting off of the trans experience without actually taking on the burden of engaging with the culture which is more than a little tasteless and tone deaf. ScarJo will be called brave and get hoards of nominations while people still look at trans individuals as he-she’s and man-lady freaks. I get why they’d be upset. It’s not just down to acting, there’s more to it than that. These casting directors don’t even seek out trans talent so the community isn’t even given the chance to run in the race. Plus, what if it’s troubling representation in the movie? The community should just accept that Hollywood at least deigned to feature a story of their’s? I don’t think it’s wrong to demand and fight for more especially when it would be better publicity for them to actually use a trans person since so few do. They could pat themselves on the back for a job well done and the trans community gets a real voice speaking and interpreting their history and truth. Win win. It’s an indie film anyway so it isn’t like it was going to be a blockbuster regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,254 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 hours ago, LittleLocoCoco said: And it's acting! You don't need to get a real Dragon to play a fucihggg Dragon. Neill Patrick Harries played a straight man for years. Gosh. Every gay person played a straight character for years in their own life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,947 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 At this point I think her agent is doing this on purpose If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepentingSinner 2,642 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 If a trans person was cast in a "cis-role", and someone complained the person complaining would be looked at as Hitler. If the opposite, its suddenly okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,228 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 She is ALWAYS popping off with some stupid response to a crucial issue, yet it never seems to affect her. I think it's because she worked with artsy directors of "important" cinema in the beginning of her career, so it gives people the false impression that she's a great, prestige actress & intelligent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore 671 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said: If a trans person was cast in a "cis-role", and someone complained the person complaining would be looked at as Hitler. If the opposite, its suddenly okay. Honey, trans people aren't even able to play trans parts ler alone a cis-role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 hours ago, ryanripley said: i get that representation is important but why are we attacking scarlet instead of the director and casting crew? they're the ones who make these choices and scarlet is a great actor at the end of the day, if she sees a challenge then she'll take it Well, I wouldn't say we are attacking her, but criticizing her decision... she did decide to take this role (I'm not sure if she auditioned, but still) so its valid criticism. I don''t think the challenging aspect of the role is actually a good justification at all It's still got the same effect. The director should be getting scolded more though. Especially since we know him to be problematic. He wanted to use CGI to make ScarJo look literally Asian on screen before he was talked down from it If they wanted an accurate portrayal, they would have at least contacted some Trans groups and representatives about this particular issue to not only weigh optics, but impact their approach to making the film. It's clear they didn't though, which is irresponsible to me to say the least. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, LittleLocoCoco said: If a trans person was cast in a "cis-role", and someone complained the person complaining would be looked at as Hitler. If the opposite, its suddenly okay. that's not how any of that works at all https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Wave 7,635 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Can someone please explain me where is the problem Colourful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Well, I wouldn't say we are attacking her, but criticizing her decision... she did decide to take this role (I'm not sure if she auditioned, but still) so its valid criticism. I don''t think the challenging aspect of the role is actually a good justification at all It's still got the same effect. The director should be getting scolded more though. Especially since we know him to be problematic. He wanted to use CGI to make ScarJo look literally Asian on screen before he was talked down from it If they wanted an accurate portrayal, they would have at least contacted some Trans groups and representatives about this particular issue to not only weigh optics, but impact their approach to making the film. It's clear they didn't though, which is irresponsible to me to say the least. i agree they should prioritise trans actors for trans roles, asian people for asian roles etc because i'm all for representation i just don't think scarlett should be getting most of the backlash, i think the director and the casting team's names should be in the headlines rather than scarlett https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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