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Is White Female Pop Dead?


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MaryJaneHolland
5 hours ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said:

I expect gaga to take us from urban to pop in 2018. 

 

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Fusel

i feel like some people on here misunderstand (or don’t want to understand) what’s going on. no one says these women who reigned 10 years ago aren’t succesful in their own way. but the zeitgeist has shifted and the things mainstream white female pop offers atm don’t resonate with the current cultural climate. katy perry failed spectacularly at rebranding her music as ‘woke pop’. taylor swift didn’t even try and released such a bland album i couldn’t finish listening to it. it doesn’t mean white woman can’t be good at pop music atm - there are a lot of them who make incredible music - but regarding the mainstream side of things there just isn’t much integrity, let alone interesting ideas.   and this is not to deny their legacy. i can appreciate them while also opening up to new things. they had their time to shine, so for now let the new artists prove themselves. as someone mentioned earlier, pop culture works cyclical 

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Drin Lon
7 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

 And is it perhaps for the better that they take a backseat to artists like Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino (in recent days), Beyonce, etc. who are at least inspiring discussions about race, gender, and politics?

 

Lmao 

Because Gaga didn't write about this on Joanne? These artists being popular (mostly in the US) has more to do with their sound rather than their topics. Lemonade as an audio album is as political as Joanne for fvck's same, it's just the way Beyoncé and her team marketed it.

This article is very vague and honestly pointless. Yes, we been knew pop girls aren't smashing anymore, but the best selling album last year was a pop album by a white male so like, yeah...

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FRANK1991

"what’s popular isn’t necessarily what’s good"

I like that. I like that line a lot 

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Well, around 2015-16 is when I started to move on from radio pop towards more unknown/ new artists that put out pop songs.

None of the big pop singers made any impact for me except maybe Carly Rae Jepsen with her massive critically acclaimed Emotion.

Now I don't know most of the songs on BB100 (before during the 2010s I know like at least half)

The new ones that are on the chart now just don't have that impact and not as big as the singers before (Gaga, Taylor Katy Adele Beyonce Rihanna ....)

 

Cause once you let it go you better know it's gone
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Taide

Pop always comes back.

1990-1997: rap, trap, Rnb etc

1998-2004: pop

2004-2009: RnB, phunk, rock etc

2009-2014: pop

2015-?: this bullsh*t

?-?: pop

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ryanripley
4 hours ago, Green Detox said:

Um taylor and camila

camila has like one hit to her name and that's it lol her impact is non existant

https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ
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Drin Lon
44 minutes ago, Taide said:

Pop always comes back.

1990-1997: rap, trap, Rnb etc

1998-2004: pop

2004-2009: RnB, phunk, rock etc

2009-2014: pop

2015-?: this bullsh*t

?-?: pop

2008, 2015 and 2016 were very much pop sis......

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Taide
2 minutes ago, Drin Lon said:

2008, 2015 and 2016 were very much pop sis......

My bad. I just threw some numbers from my head. But y'all still get my point.

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MeloArtDramaPop

It’s just not trendy to be white rn because of the overgeneralizations, which sadly gaga is also being labeled as

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MelbHawker

I think R&B is what's popular at the moment. Rap has become IT again - it's laced with heavy political messages. It's like when Pop was all about love and equality. Any song with some sort of message was eaten up. Rap's at it at the moment re: black culture, America etc.

 Pop's become lazy and plastic over these past few years.. no-ones thirsty for it anymore. 

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JohnnyVersace
15 hours ago, Devyn said:

I think pop artist just need to step up. Pop music is in a coma and needs to be revived but, I'm not mad that artist like Kendrick, Donald and Beyonce are thriving. 

This ^

Tbh, there just haven't been solid offering. Gaga and Miley turned their back on pop and took a country turn. Katy tried to be experimental. Taylor tried to seem rebellious and came across as try-hard. And Madonna and Britney, just...:awkney:

I think Gaga sees this, and hopefully brings back some of the glamour, edge, and eccentricity that made her a superstar. It kind of feels like the pop girls are lost, and trying too hard. Ariana is the only one getting it right atm. 

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misunderstood

Another day, another irrelevant discussion about race, I love progression :giveup:

 

"I'd rather be poor and happy, than rich and alone"
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DiscoHeaven23

The quotes you've provided are SO INSIGHTFUL

really made me think. 

I think we go towards music and entertainment for escapism. The has resulted in music trends being counter to the status quo. 

So it makes sense that hip-hop has become major during the Trump years, just like it was during the W. Bush years. 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Devyn said:

I think pop artist just need to step up. Pop music is in a coma and needs to be revived but, I'm not mad that artist like Kendrick, Donald and Beyonce are thriving. 

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and this is how you respectfully respond to a comment :staymad:

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