ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 minute ago, KleinGa said: Why do you even bother replying to people like that anymore? like honestly it got exhausting when I used to do t now I just read, pray a prayer to the virgin mary that these people see the light and then I continue scrolling somebody has to do the lord's work https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ryanripley said: i-... this is just disrespectful The fact that they aren't working hard enough is a huge disrespect to her legacy as an artist. The truth can hurt sometimes, but it doesn't change just because we're fans. I bet nobody here would hesitate for a second to say what I said or much much worse things about another artist and it passes as "ok" or "tea" just because it isn't Gaga. On a side note, respect is earned not a given. Announcing a single, then changing her mind and promising a video will still happen, and then the video for the newly change single does not happen and then a long blackout for months, that's not something worthy of respect, perhaps it's the management, perhaps it's the company, perhaps it's the artist, either way, whoever made the decision was certainly not respecting fans enough, therefore, they do not deserve my respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Givenchy said: The fact that they aren't working hard enough is a huge disrespect to her legacy as an artist. The truth can hurt sometimes, but it doesn't change just because we're fans. I bet nobody here would hesitate for a second to say what I said or much much worse things about another artist and it passes as "ok" or "tea" just because it isn't Gaga. the difference between gaga and other artists is that she has fibro that causes chronic pain all over her body when she works too hard so don't go around saying she doesn't work hard enough when she's been working non-stop for 10 straight years, still puts her health on the back seat just so she can gives fans a show and has only really taken a break from february until now, that's just plain disrespectful when she's still achieveing high amounts of success having a quiet couple of years doesn't discredit any of her previous success, she's allowed to have lowkey moments in her life and she deserves more than anyone to take it easy and not constantly be pushing for number 1s and endless amounts of grammys just to satisfy stan twitter instead of herself https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Just now, ryanripley said: the difference between gaga and other artists is that she has fibro that causes chronic pain all over her body when she works too hard so don't go around saying she doesn't work hard enough when she's been working non-stop for 10 straight years and has only really taken a break from february until now, that's just plain disrespectful when she's still achieveing high amounts of success Are we gonna justify everything she fails at with fibro? like what I see on this forums is that a lot of people try to throw the blame on anyone but her. One moment it's the manager, the other it's her illness, the other it's the "demanding" and "undeserving" fans, the other it's the "sexist radio", the other it's "haters" or "Madonna" or "she's just doing what she wants". Can we just consider for a second that she could've made a mistake like any of us might and still get bad feedback for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Givenchy said: Are we gonna justify everything she fails at with fibro? like what I see on this forums is that a lot of people try to throw the blame on anyone but her. One moment it's the manager, the other it's her illness, the other it's the "demanding" and "undeserving" fans, the other it's the "sexist radio", the other it's "haters" or "Madonna" or "she's just doing what she wants". Can we just consider for a second that she could've made a mistake like any of us might and still get bad feedback for it? tbh though you have no right to tell her to work harder ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Givenchy said: Are we gonna justify everything she fails at with fibro? like what I see on this forums is that a lot of people try to throw the blame on anyone but her. One moment it's the manager, the other it's her illness, the other it's the "demanding" and "undeserving" fans, the other it's the "sexist radio", the other it's "haters" or "Madonna" or "she's just doing what she wants". Can we just consider for a second that she could've made a mistake like any of us might and still get bad feedback for it? did i say she's totally innocent? i just said it was disrespectful to say she hasn't worked hard since applause which is totally false when she's already engaged in 3 world tours since then with chronic pain and that's just one example of course she and her team make mistakes but a lot of fans are willing to attack bobby or her just because she didn't get a number 1 or (on the other side of the spectrum) she didn't attend the met my comment didn't say her illness excuses her of mishaps and failures, it states that she's more entitled than any of these other popstars to take it slow for a couple of years because she pushed her body to the absolute limit just to keep fans satisfied. saying she needs to keep it 110% just like she did in TF/TFM/BTW is just unrealistic because she's a human and humans shut down when they run out of fuel but that's a bigger discussion for another topic Joanne was no TFM in terms of success and charts and tour gross but it sure as hell was a step up from ARTPOP and to say she hasn't worked hard since Applause is just bad https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,960 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Givenchy said: Are we gonna justify everything she fails at with fibro? like what I see on this forums is that a lot of people try to throw the blame on anyone but her. One moment it's the manager, the other it's her illness, the other it's the "demanding" and "undeserving" fans, the other it's the "sexist radio", the other it's "haters" or "Madonna" or "she's just doing what she wants". Can we just consider for a second that she could've made a mistake like any of us might and still get bad feedback for it? Hun ur on GGD It's ok to shade any artist and be borderline hateful as spilling tea as u said but if anyone says anything about Gaga it's "no negativity on this site thankyou" I don't think she's lazy like u suggest tho. She's just disorganized Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 minute ago, imwoahvicky said: tbh though you have no right to tell her to work harder What happens if I do? are they gonna arrest me for it? I have the right to express myself freely and in my original post, all I said was that it would be very unfortunate if she doesn't come close to her Bad Romance success, but if it does, it means she and her team didn't work hard enough, so it's on them. I explained a situation rather than "told" her what to do, which is also my right as part of free speech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Just now, Economy said: Jun ur on GGD It's ok to shade any artist and be borderline hateful as spilling tea as u said but if anyone says anything about Gaga it's "no negativity on this site thankyou" I don't think she's lazy like u suggest tho. She's just disorganized I know right? It's sad how biased people can be. Mention Gaga's flaws and the answer is "#PromoteOnlineKindness", mention Shawn Mendes and everyone shames him for not "admitting" that he's gay and then justifying that as a joke. LOL She's not lazy no, but she seems quite unmotivated and her team is highly disorganized and plain careless about her. 1 minute ago, ryanripley said: did i say she's totally innocent? i just said it was disrespectful to say she hasn't worked hard since applause which is totally false when she's already engaged in 3 world tours since then with chronic pain and that's just one example of course she and her team make mistakes but a lot of fans are willing to attack bobby or her just because she didn't get a number 1 or (on the other side of the spectrum) she didn't attend the met my comment didn't say her illness excuses her of mishaps and failures, it states that she's more entitled than any of these other popstars to take it slow for a couple of years because she pushed her body to the absolute limit just to keep fans satisfied. saying she needs to keep it 110% just like she did in TF/TFM/BTW is just unrealistic because she's a human and humans shut down when they run out of fuel but that's a bigger discussion for another topic Joanne was no TFM in terms of success and charts and tour gross but it sure as hell was a step up from ARTPOP and to say she hasn't worked hard since Applause is just bad She can take all the rest she likes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. She doesn't owe anyone to release an album every year or two or even four. It's her career so whatever she decides to do with it comes back to her in a positive or a negative way, not us. However, what I mentioned was based on the fact that her image, her choice of genre, her fashion, her style, her music videos, even the songs, they didn't feel like something you'd expect from someone as great in terms of artistry, fashion and visual arts as Lady Gaga. It could be her fault, it could be the team, but there's definitely some sort of disorganization there, and my original post merely said that it would be really unfortunate if she doesn't even come close to Bad Romance, ever (and I meant reaching a few hundred million views), but it's also not the fault of the radio nor the sexist media, but the quality of the work presented because there's been a lot of disorganization in the last few years and a lot of fans aren't as pleased as they used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Givenchy said: She can take all the rest she likes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. She doesn't owe anyone to release an album every year or two or even four. It's her career so whatever she decides to do with it comes back to her in a positive or a negative way, not us. However, what I mentioned was based on the fact that her image, her choice of genre, her fashion, her style, her music videos, even the songs, they didn't feel like something you'd expect from someone as great in terms of artistry, fashion and visual arts as Lady Gaga. It could be her fault, it could be the team, but there's definitely some sort of disorganization there, and my original post merely said that it would be really unfortunate if she doesn't even come close to Bad Romance, ever (and I meant reaching a few hundred million views), but it's also not the fault of the radio nor the sexist media, but the quality of the work presented because there's been a lot of disorganization in the last few years and a lot of fans aren't as pleased as they used to be. you literally said she hasn't worked hard since Applause and that's the only part i had a problem with because it's plain wrong no matter what angle you look at it it's a fact the media is sexist and the radio ageist so idk why you're trying to bring that up but gaga does work hard and i won't allow "fans" to sit here and say she hasn't when she's given them something new every year in her career (minus 2010) https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,482 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, Economy said: I don't think she's lazy like u suggest tho. She's just disorganized This. She needs a management with strong vision. Just like e. g. writers NEED editors and proofreaders, she needs someone to organize her ideas to be more approachable etc. But wait. Is that a negative thing to say? Is the moral police coming for me? Spoiler Thankfully I don't give a fuk. Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misunderstood 8,736 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 It won’t change how much I love the video, so it doesn’t affect me. "I'd rather be poor and happy, than rich and alone" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister max 18,480 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Givenchy said: The fact that they aren't working hard enough is a huge disrespect to her legacy as an artist. The truth can hurt sometimes, but it doesn't change just because we're fans. I bet nobody here would hesitate for a second to say what I said or much much worse things about another artist and it passes as "ok" or "tea" just because it isn't Gaga. On a side note, respect is earned not a given. Announcing a single, then changing her mind and promising a video will still happen, and then the video for the newly change single does not happen and then a long blackout for months, that's not something worthy of respect, perhaps it's the management, perhaps it's the company, perhaps it's the artist, either way, whoever made the decision was certainly not respecting fans enough, therefore, they do not deserve my respect. Get out of the ARTPOP era gurl, that was FIVE years ago. FIVE. Being pressed iver something that happened that long ago is just unhealthy, especially when she has done everything and more to make it right. She has done nothing but working on her image and rebranding her to the praised woman that she is today. She is close to star in a movie which will maybe even get her her first Oscar. Buy ARTPOP on itunes or smth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Givenchy said: Are we gonna justify everything she fails at with fibro? Yes fibro is a serious illness especially for someone who depends on her bodily health to do her job. Imagine having fibro and dealing with high intensity performances night after night have some respect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 4 hours ago, TheSlash said: As long as it gets surpassed by Gaga herself, I don't care This! OT: We all know BR will remain one of her signature songs but its time for Gaga to expand and have more hits/signatures to take the lead in YouTube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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