TheRoof 21,600 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, SolidSnake said: No she wasnt, Aerosmith and Anthrax featured hip hop artists YEARS before she did. Try again. She wasnt even near the first 20 to do it. R&B inspired pop ballads were already a thing with Whitney Houston I never said she was the first period, but she was the first mainstream artist who did a feature and found success in it. A Pop Girl and a Rap Artist being successful. It's not who did it first, but we're talking about the success it got and how it popularized it. You clearly didn't read my reply. I never said that she invented R&B inspired Pop Ballads, but her style inspired multiple singers, like the ones I stated. She also still popularized the whispery-falsetto. If you don't like or don't want to see the impact that Mariah has had, simply don't reply. Thank you. ⟡ ⋆ ˚。⋆🦢⋆ ˚。⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake 2,804 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Noah said: I never said she was the first period, but she was the first mainstream artist who did a feature and found success in it. A Pop Girl and a Rap Artist being successful. It's not who did it first, but we're talking about the success it got and how it popularized it. You clearly didn't read my reply. I never said that she invented R&B inspired Pop Ballads, but her style inspired multiple singers, like the ones I stated. She also still popularized the whispery-falsetto. If you don't like or don't want to see the impact that Mariah has had, simply don't reply. Thank you. Aerosmith doesnt count as a mainstream artist? They've sold over 150 million records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Other than the high notes,they have no similarities.So no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, SolidSnake said: Aerosmith doesnt count as a mainstream artist? They've sold over 150 million records. I said 'who found success in it'. It's about the feature. Fantasy debuted at #1 and held that position for a few weeks. It is being recognized as THE crossover song of Pop and Hip Hop. ⟡ ⋆ ˚。⋆🦢⋆ ˚。⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake 2,804 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Noah said: I said 'who found success in it'. It's about the feature. Fantasy debuted at #1 and held that position for a few weeks. It is being recognized as THE crossover song of Pop and Hip Hop. Delusional. Walk this way was far more important to the success of Pop/Rap crossovers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_This_Way#Run–D.M.C._version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, SolidSnake said: Delusional. Walk this way was far more important to the success of Pop/Rap crossovers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_This_Way#Run–D.M.C._version ???? I am talking about Pop/Rap Crossovers and the impact Fantasy had in this Category. I never talked about Crossovers in general, I feel like you don't even want to see what Mariah has done. ⟡ ⋆ ˚。⋆🦢⋆ ˚。⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake 2,804 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Noah said: ???? I am talking about Pop/Rap Crossovers and the impact Fantasy had in this Category. I never talked about Crossovers in general, I feel like you don't even want to see what Mariah has done. Did you read the article or nah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagechrist 2,853 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, SolidSnake said: Delusional. Walk this way was far more important to the success of Pop/Rap crossovers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_This_Way#Run–D.M.C._version Maybe on Mars. Mariah was the first female artist in Billboard history to debut at #1 on the Hot 100 with the Fantasy remix and she is credited for making rap-pop collaborations mainstream. Fantasy was a massive hit, way bigger than Walk This Way, so no, it wasn't more important. Stop trying to take away credit from her, she has done a lot for the music industry. feeling so hot tamale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimitrisARTPOP 372 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 sorry Ariana but NO Spoiler I like Ari but she will never reach 90's Mariah (and early 00s - even now sometimes Mimi is better)... no one will reach her I guess Mariah's artistry, vocal performances, song writing and remixing are GOLDEN, Ari sometimes is muhhh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, SolidSnake said: No she wasnt, Aerosmith and Anthrax featured hip hop artists YEARS before she did. Try again. She wasnt even near the first 20 to do it. R&B inspired pop ballads were already a thing with Whitney Houston Mariah "Goddamn" Carey had a feature of Snoop Dog for the love of god Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopang 4,831 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Only the delusional will say yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake 2,804 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, teenagechrist said: Maybe on Mars. Mariah was the first female artist in Billboard history to debut at #1 on the Hot 100 with the Fantasy remix and she is credited for making rap-pop collaborations mainstream. Fantasy was a massive hit, way bigger than Walk This Way, so no, it wasn't more important. Stop trying to take away credit from her, she has done a lot for the music industry. You Mariah stans are really in your feelings and have an odd relationship with reality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagechrist 2,853 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, SolidSnake said: You Mariah stans are really in your feelings and have an odd relationship with reality Nah we're fine, we just hate it when people make ignorant comments about her or try to belittle her achievements OT: I don't want to go off-topic, so the answer is no. Ariana is great, but there's only one Mariah. feeling so hot tamale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
migamiga 12,102 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 to anyone who says yes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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