JT did the stupidest thing

[Wolf Boy 3,240]

God some of yall are dramatic, acting like JT been arrested for murdering a 6 year old girl or something.

The Super Bowl was a mess, but really, get a grip.

[BlaqJezus 1,027]

Let's get down to the truth of it shall we? Prince? Who I love and adore, never will forget, and have always been hugely entertained and inspired by, and let me say it in bold so all y'all in the back can hear it to: Prince was a part of two different Christian cults at one point or another.

Did you get that? All this nonsense about how Prince "thought greatness should only be original to its time" or how "if you're going to do something special it has to be -never been done before-" is all well and good, great excuses if you feel like not reading his quote properly, but it's not the truth more than it's just what you want to tell yourself.

Normal creative artists, normal people, hell even normal Christians do not use the word "demonic" to describe things in any given conversation. They do not condemn modern technology as the work of the devil. When Prince says he thinks it's "demonic" to have resurrect people in image, he actually means that.

If you know Prince, like really know his work, his early career, are even old enough to remember him before the late Nineties and 2000's, then you know at least one thing about him: he was a hedonist. He reveled in taboo, he reveled in sexuality, he loved to take his audience to a place they'd never been before and when he was called a god, he made sure everyone knew he accepted it and changed his name and made himself a symbol literally. Then after that period? The guilt set in, and he was brought back into two groups that he felt helped him deal with that:

Seventh Day Adventists

and

Jehova's Witness

These two groups warped him and changed him into the person he basically died as. Paranoid, more secretive than before, more "pure and repentant" later in life. That's not the real Artist Formerly Known As Prince, that's not Doves Cry, that's not Purple Rain, that's a shell of a man I used to love and worship because of the freedom his music brings the soul. So before you bring this quote into it, and claim righteous indignation? Check yourself, because you aren't looking at all the facts. If you think those groups aren't cults and didn't change him totally, probably brainwashing him? Check yourself again, because you need look no further than MJ and all the rest these kinds of groups changed.

Nah, the worst part of JT's halftime show? It wasn't special or spectacular or even that entertaining, and it could have been. That's the worst part.

[insight 2,429]

this thread is a mess

[DeleteMyAccount 11,881]

Justin only performed to promote his new album. Without the album he would be irrelevant. That and the fact that he was invited back and did the show also rubbed me the wrong way.

The Prince stuff was also tasteless.

[NCgaga 4,323]

I think you need to get a grip. It was a projection of him on a sheet. There is no reason to be so offended like this. Everyone is so dramatic and gets offended by every little thing these days. No one can do any thing no without someone getting “offended” and victimizing themselves. If I were famous I would be afraid to express myself or tribute one of my heroes- and that is not right. This whole “I’m offended” thing going on now is causing the censorship of art. Good job. 

[Alphaz 7,956]

"No negativity on this site thank you" my ass.

The amount of negativity on this site towards JT for the past weeks have been too much.

[NCgaga 4,323]

Exactly. I’m not even a fan of JT like that, but all these hypocrites on gaga daily going after him, then getting mad if someone says anything about Gaga. 

[Jeroen Bloeming 2,276]

I love Prince and I love JT. Justin only wanted to honor him. But you all just need a reason to bash him even more. He didn't even do anything wrong. Don't start on that Janet bs. She's.ruining her own career anyway. Prince maybe wouldn't have agreed with this but we don't know. Justin was never disrespectful in the performance and he did it to pay tribute to one of his favorite artists. He really doesn't deserve to be hated so much. Damn

[Phlop 4,773]

3 hours ago, Mirages said:

That's exactly my biggest issue with the show (not looking at poor production value, low energy performance, lame stage layout and cringey moments), Prince didn't like holograms, he didn't like "resurecting" people, he loved thing that were new original and never done before, he never wanted to be brought back like this, his family didn't want it yet JT did it, Prince never even liked or admired JT and his career. It feels wrong, it feels like Prince's wishes were just thrown away and pooped on now that he is no longer with us.

Exactly. And Prince was also very religious and I believe it’s against Jehovas Witness to celebrate a person like THAT. They don’t even celebrate birthdays etc.

He could’ve payed tribute with the song and a silhouette of the Prince symbol. Or even lighting up the city purple would’ve been enough. 

[lego 44,165]

3 minutes ago, Phlop said:

lighting up the city purple would’ve been enough. 

 

This. 

[NCgaga 4,323]

54 minutes ago, Phlop said:

Exactly. And Prince was also very religious and I believe it’s against Jehovas Witness to celebrate a person like THAT. They don’t even celebrate birthdays etc.

He could’ve payed tribute with the song and a silhouette of the Prince symbol. Or even lighting up the city purple would’ve been enough. 

ITS a tribute. Who are you to tell someone how to tribute someone? He is one of Justin’s heroes. Y’all are so sensitive and offended by everything. Like, lay off the guy. If you can’t even handle watching a performance at the super bowl without getting offended- you just shouldn’t even watch television. You guys are leading to the censorship of artists. Soon they will all be afraid of expressing themselves because of people ripping them apart. 

[ALGAYDO 32,498]

23 minutes ago, NCgaga said:

ITS a tribute. Who are you to tell someone how to tribute someone? He is one of Justin’s heroes. Y’all are so sensitive and offended by everything. Like, lay off the guy. If you can’t even handle watching a performance at the super bowl without getting offended- you just shouldn’t even watch television. You guys are leading to the censorship of artists. Soon they will all be afraid of expressing themselves because of people ripping them apart. 

JT literally ignored the wishes of Prince AND his family. How can you not be offended when someone shamelessly goes against the wishes of a dead artists and his family just to make themselves look good? There are a lot of things people overreact to, but disrespecting the dead for self-promo is not one of them. Get a ****ing grip. 

[Chuckles 2,549]

I do agree on the song choice though...

[highlikegaga 9,001]

@ y'all for trying to paint Prince as a lunatic just because he was in two cults. It starts to look like a f-cking sour grapes situation.

I respectively spoke my opinion. Don't blame Prince and don't degrade his accomplishments as an artist, because of who he was in his personal life. Everyone, and i mean absolutely everyone has done one or two things (at least) that may seem morally wrong to someone. So what? He was in a cult? So what? His music matter to me. His voice and the way he represented so much matter to me. His legacy matter to me.

JT was always the cute white male artist i sometimes listened to. (and probably had a crush on) But this is in poor taste and poor judgment and nothing can redeem this. Prince deserved better than a half-a$$ed "tribute" that didn't tribute sh-t. For f-ck's sake, JT sang "I Would Die 4 U" Anyone else seeing the f-cked up morality in this?? Maybe JT joined a cult or two and is not making bad f-cking decisions that are going to end his career sooner rather than later. While, Prince stays unbothered in cult heaven.

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[StrawberryBlond 14,822]

I agree, even though I wasn't a fan. I'm all about respecting people's wishes, especially the wishes of the dead. Holograms (I know it wasn't technically, but it operated like one) are a very polarising thing. I know I find them creepy, unsettling and unnecessary. I certainly wouldn't like the idea of paying to see a hologram of a dead artist perform a show, particularly when that money might not even be going to their estate or family but rather, their greedy record label. I can totally get why an artist wouldn't like their image used in this way when they've passed. One of the most terrifying things about dying is the thought of how everything that you owned before is now being passed on to others and all your opinions no longer have real worth as you can't put them into practice. To think that someone could make decisions involving how my image is used after my death in ways that I wouldn't be comfortable with sends shivers down my spine. Justin and everyone else who allowed him to do this are way over the line in assuming everything would be ok. I hope he apologises to Prince's family for his foolishness and disrespect. If it's true that he knew his family didn't like the idea but did it anyway, that is even more unforgivable.

3 hours ago, BlaqJezus said:

Let's get down to the truth of it shall we? Prince? Who I love and adore, never will forget, and have always been hugely entertained and inspired by, and let me say it in bold so all y'all in the back can hear it to: Prince was a part of two different Christian cults at one point or another.

Did you get that? All this nonsense about how Prince "thought greatness should only be original to its time" or how "if you're going to do something special it has to be -never been done before-" is all well and good, great excuses if you feel like not reading his quote properly, but it's not the truth more than it's just what you want to tell yourself.

Normal creative artists, normal people, hell even normal Christians do not use the word "demonic" to describe things in any given conversation. They do not condemn modern technology as the work of the devil. When Prince says he thinks it's "demonic" to have resurrect people in image, he actually means that.

If you know Prince, like really know his work, his early career, are even old enough to remember him before the late Nineties and 2000's, then you know at least one thing about him: he was a hedonist. He reveled in taboo, he reveled in sexuality, he loved to take his audience to a place they'd never been before and when he was called a god, he made sure everyone knew he accepted it and changed his name and made himself a symbol literally. Then after that period? The guilt set in, and he was brought back into two groups that he felt helped him deal with that:

Seventh Day Adventists

and

Jehova's Witness

These two groups warped him and changed him into the person he basically died as. Paranoid, more secretive than before, more "pure and repentant" later in life. That's not the real Artist Formerly Known As Prince, that's not Doves Cry, that's not Purple Rain, that's a shell of a man I used to love and worship because of the freedom his music brings the soul. So before you bring this quote into it, and claim righteous indignation? Check yourself, because you aren't looking at all the facts. If you think those groups aren't cults and didn't change him totally, probably brainwashing him? Check yourself again, because you need look no further than MJ and all the rest these kinds of groups changed.

Regardless of this religious beliefs and how they affected him, I still think his wishes should be respected. Also, I don't think he meant "demonic" in the way we think. I doubt he meant it was genuinely the devil's work, more like an over-exaggeration of what it meant in his mind. Just because he believes in a higher power doesn't mean he meant such terms so seriously. I'm a believer in God and whenever I try something new to eat that I don't like, I sometimes say: "Throw that back into hell, where it came from." Do I mean it seriously? No, it's just an over-exaggerated joke. Prince likely meant what he said in the same way. There's no doubt that he hated the concept of holograms but his words weren't likely to be taken so literally. What being a Jehovah's Witness did to his mental state is a whole different discussion. But can't he just disagree with holograms without his religion being the focal point as to why he said what he did?