Threats of Electricity Shut-Off, Economic War Over Pipeline (Canada)

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https://www.bnn.ca/b-c-will-face-consequences-over-attempt-to-hinder-trans-mountain-notley-1.984373

 

Alberta, Canada's most Conservative Province that also has the most Carbon intensive economy in Canada is going head to head with its neighbour British Columbia who just so happens to be Canada's greenest

 

Environmental desputes between the two Provinces is not a new thing but now a Federally approved pipeline project that involves a very large amount of money for the entire Country is being blocked by BC

 

BC has vowed to use all its legal tools including stalling construction permits and taking Corporation building pipeline to court to prevent the project. British Columbia has recently increased actions against the project even further with methods questionably beyond its legal powers. Even Municipalities in BC have found ways to stall the project.

 

Alberta's party leader has said there will be concequences of legal nature and if necessary economic sanctions as punishment for British Columbia consistently going beyond its "legal power" to sabatoge projects of "National Interest"

 

Premier Notley even went as far as low-key suggesting it could Shut-Off power supply to BC but her comment on ending electric trade was unclear to details

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BC and Alberta are like 2 next door neighbours that hate eachother and can't get along and are polar opposites on everything. I don't think these issues will ever end

 

The most Liberal Province in most aspects has to share borders and important trade infrastructure with the most Right-winged Province in Canada

 

This is the first time in 40 years that the Conservative Right Winged Government didn't win in Alberta and their left winged Government is still more right winged than the Conservatives in Ontario

 

@OBEY @JustinTrudeau @juicyjuicy

 

Pipeline politics eh? @Woolfsmck

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@Born To Slay u like politics. What's ur opinion? I know the US faced issues of similar nature in Nebraska tho I don't think it got quite this heated

[Alexander Paley 120]

slay BC 

[Economy 52,844]

Just now, Alexander Paley said:

slay BC 

I get both points of view but BC far too often takes big things into its own hands

 

If the Federal Government approves something they shouldn't be interfering Everytime. They do this quite frequently. Northern Gateway and other projects have had similar issues

 

This is the most heated in a while

[Alexander Paley 120]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

I get both points of view but BC far too often takes big things into its own hands

 

If the Federal Government approves something they shouldn't be interfering Everytime. They do this quite frequently. Northern Gateway and other projects have had similar issues

 

This is the most heated in a while

I must confess that i have no real knowledge on any of the Canadian issues.

From the diplomatic perspective, i'd rather condemn this move. However personally I stand behind BC. 

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9 minutes ago, Alexander Paley said:

I must confess that i have no real knowledge on any of the Canadian issues.

From the diplomatic perspective, i'd rather condemn this move. However personally I stand behind BC. 

Both have their points so... I side slightly with Alberta on this one tho

[Woolfsmck 2,763]

I'm not sure where this is going.   I get the green movement,and agree, but the time table is too accelerated....

The tit for tat political climate is like watching an episode of romper room...🤔

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1 hour ago, Woolfsmck said:

I'm not sure where this is going.   I get the green movement,and agree, but the time table is too accelerated....

The tit for tat political climate is like watching an episode of romper room...🤔

Ppl are not realistic that's the problem

 

All I know is the Government can't decide anything anymore when even college kids go and rally for protest over something that makes the news and ppl are so easily swayed without much details on the grand scope of things

[JustinTrudeau 2,419]

I just walked by a group of protestors on campus because they didn't want their university to invest in fossil fuel (Ontario, not BC just so you know). I find this amusing for some reason.

This situation kinda remind me of how Russia cut off gas to Ukraine a few years ago (or was it a threat? I didn't pay attention at the time). 

To be honest, I have no idea how I feel about this Alberta vs BC situation. I understand both sides, and I understand that oil/pipelines are important to our economy and help build jobs, but I also want to move into a future where we don't have to rely on this energy source, and I like how BC doesn't just go with whatever they have been told (resistance can be good). I'm not sure if I should be optimistic or realistic about this.

One thing for sure, it's a **** move to even threaten to cut off power supply. BC is protesting on a government level (and student level if you really want to include them), but a huge percentage of BC citizens weren't involved in this mess. They just want to make sure they can go to school/work/home and go on with their daily lives every day.

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54 minutes ago, JustinTrudeau said:

I just walked by a group of protestors on campus because they didn't want their university to invest in fossil fuel (Ontario, not BC just so you know). I find this amusing for some reason.

This situation kinda remind me of how Russia cut off gas to Ukraine a few years ago (or was it a threat? I didn't pay attention at the time). 

To be honest, I have no idea how I feel about this Alberta vs BC situation. I understand both sides, and I understand that oil/pipelines are important to our economy and help build jobs, but I also want to move into a future where we don't have to rely on this energy source, and I like how BC doesn't just go with whatever they have been told (resistance can be good). I'm not sure if I should be optimistic or realistic about this.

One thing for sure, it's a **** move to even threaten to cut off power supply. BC is protesting on a government level (and student level if you really want to include them), but a huge percentage of BC citizens weren't involved in this mess. They just want to make sure they can go to school/work/home and go on with their daily lives every day.

I agree. Threats are not the way to handle these things

 

I do get why Alberta is frustrated tho. Year after year every project they try to get built either gets blocked, challenged or delayed and it's frustrating. Just recently Northern Gateway project went thru political hell, the Federal Government had finaly approved it and after several legal challenges it ended up being cancelled. The cancellation of that project is very recent

 

Canada is selling oil at $40/barrel instead of the almost $70/barrel most oil globally is going for because lack of pipeline infrastructure is forcing competition on which companies get to use the infrastructure and sell the oil. Everyone else is moving the oil by trains and trucks which is costly AF

 

Canada looses billions a year in revenue because of these ongoing stail-mates

 

I do get needing to go greener tho. We have to take steps and sometimes we don't do enough. But I also don't think trying to block every single project is the way either and BC shouldn't dictate for the whole Country what can and can't be built