craig 680 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) On 7/26/2012 at 1:04 AM, DaEdgeOfGloryYo said: WOW. I've never seen Gaga or us dragged like this. Honestly, is this what's to come as Gaga ages? I somehow don't doubt it. Madonna wasn't very scathed either, until 1989 and on that is. I've seen worse from Madonna stans. They remind me more of political ideologues than a simple pop fanbase, in their ability to combine knowledge and argument with a biased agenda of Madonna superiority and "attack ads" against rivals. Edited July 26, 2012 by craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 1:14 AM, theFuture said: This very modest comment regarding the Adele bullying wasn't very effective at all and was a simple answer to a question asked by a journalist. I'd like to speak her out TO her fans about this... She tweeted love for Adele, which dampened down Monster bitterness. She also took steps to end the feud with Britney stans. By the same logic, Madonna should be blamed for actions of her stans because she fueled the fire. Kylie got tons of twitter hate from Madge stans for saying "no just no" about one Madge outfit, even though she praised Madonna repeatly on the same show with Joan Rivers. Even before that, a Madge stan called "LadyFraudGa" was making comments like "Kylie deserved to get cancer" on her latest youtube video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEdgeOfGloryYo 0 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) "Madonna will, I predict, largely break down ageism and particularly s-xist ageism or at least the perception of what people, especially women, are expected to do as they age and the roles they're expected to play. Just as she pretty much gave the middle finger to the expected s-xual subordination of women with songs like "Express Yourself" and albums like Erotica. Which mind you was PANNED at the time and "the end of her career - that's it she's gone too far this time she's done" (we all know how that turned out) Madonna's very forward-thinking that way. She seems to think less about immediate reactions and more about how her work will look years down the line. Or, hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she just does what she wants and has been very lucky. Either way, her astuteness I think comes partially from her refusal to read anything about herself." This is my favourite comment on that article. Just, everything I want to say but he/she put it way better. Edited July 26, 2012 by DaEdgeOfGloryYo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theFuture Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 1:28 AM, craig said: She tweeted love for Adele, which dampened down Monster bitterness. She also took steps to end the feud with Britney stans. By the same logic, Madonna should be blamed for actions of her stans because she fueled the fire. Kylie got tons of twitter hate from Madge stans for saying "no just no" about one Madge outfit, even though she praised Madonna repeatly on the same show with Joan Rivers. Even before that, a Madge stan called "LadyFraudGa" was making comments like "Kylie deserved to get cancer" on her latest youtube video. Let's be honest: Little Monsters take it to a completely new level. And no, I don't see how Gaga's "tweet love" for Adele stopped monsters to continue. Because they still do like they used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEdgeOfGloryYo 0 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) And yes of course all fanbases can be bad. LMs get more wrath for it than others. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2060981/Lady-Gaga-fans-Twitter-bully-hit-soul-singer-Adele.html Edited July 26, 2012 by DaEdgeOfGloryYo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) On 7/26/2012 at 1:32 AM, theFuture said: Let's be honest: Little Monsters take it to a completely new level. And no, I don't see how Gaga's "tweet love" for Adele stopped monsters to continue. Because they still do like they used to. Adele videos aren't infested with hate from Monsters the way Gaga's videos are full of hate from Madonna stans (even back in 2011 before LM started to respond in kind). Madonna crazies specialize in haunting youtube videos, since their idol isn't into twitter. With Adele, it was more "let's make a few fat jokes post-Grammies and move on." Not the deep bitterness of people invested in their idol being queen having her supplanted. Edited July 26, 2012 by craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 12:40 AM, CroatiaGeisha said: This is seriously one of my absolute favorites And I discovered it very randomly, around last year when I was trying to become more familiar with M's music! I feel like it's brutally underrated. I notice how most pop fans prefer highly energized songs but the mellow feel >>>>> I love Waiting, too. I discovered on YouTube once something labeled The Rain Tapes. I don't really know what they are, maybe the beginnings of all the first versions of songs for the album Erotica.. But this is the first version of Waiting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4i_5YWDTE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lum 325 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) On 7/26/2012 at 1:53 AM, PopBitch said: I love Waiting, too. I discovered on YouTube once something labeled The Rain Tapes. I don't really know what they are, maybe the beginnings of all the first versions of songs for the album Erotica.. But this is the first version of Waiting. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nj4i_5YWDTE They're a collection of old Erotica demos, basically. They're a cool listen, but are some times hard to listen to because of low quality. :eww: Edited July 26, 2012 by Lum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaEdgeOfGloryYo 0 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) On 7/26/2012 at 1:38 AM, craig said: Adele videos aren't infested with hate from Monsters the way Gaga's videos are full of hate from Madonna stans (even back in 2011 before LM started to respond in kind). Madonna crazies specialize in haunting youtube videos, since their idol isn't into twitter. With Adele, it was more "let's make a few fat jokes post-Grammies and move on." Not the deep bitterness of people invested in their idol being queen having her supplanted. The bullying of Adele actually made the news. Several outlets picked up on it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2060981/Lady-Gaga-fans-Twitter-bully-hit-soul-singer-Adele.html http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/lady-gaga-fans-bully-adele-about-her-weight-on-twitter/story-e6frfn09-1226195726091 http://newsroom.mtv.com/2011/07/21/vma-nominations-lady-gaga-twitter-little-monsters-insult-adele/ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/248775/20111114/lady-gaga-v-adele-little-monsters-taunt.htm http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/42344/lady-gaga%E2%80%99s-little-monsters-get-heavy-rival-adele I remember Gaga essentially saying "stop" on her twitter, actually. Adele fans now don't seem to like lm's. Edited July 26, 2012 by DaEdgeOfGloryYo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterGrease 53 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 1:53 AM, PopBitch said: I love Waiting, too. I discovered on YouTube once something labeled The Rain Tapes. I don't really know what they are, maybe the beginnings of all the first versions of songs for the album Erotica.. But this is the first version of Waiting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4i_5YWDTE There are only like five songs off the "leaked" tapes that are real, there was a list on the WikiPedia page for the tapes but I don't think it exists anymore :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALX 170 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 1:32 AM, theFuture said: Let's be honest: Little Monsters take it to a completely new level. And no, I don't see how Gaga's "tweet love" for Adele stopped monsters to continue. Because they still do like they used to. I think it's some of the delusional misinformed Twitter Monsters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) The press is very protective of Adele, especially in that moment. Madge twitter fans have made news too: http://www.huffingto..._n_1670884.html http://www.bpax.tv/2012/07/madonna-fans-attack-cher/ Edited July 26, 2012 by craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALX 170 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The Rain Tapes have always fascinated me. The track listing is on this site http://mymdna.com/flashback-the-rain-tapes/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Freak 2,432 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On 7/26/2012 at 2:14 AM, omgitsandrew said: The Rain Tapes have always fascinated me. The track listing is on this site http://mymdna.com/fl...the-rain-tapes/ Do you not have these? They leaked a long time ago. If you want I can upload them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda Meeks 0 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I had stopped listening to MDNA a lot to listen to Erotica, Like a Prayer, Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light and American Life, but now I have gone back to MDNA. But I brought American Life with me. God I love these albums sooo much. :cry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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