GRAMMYs President: Women Need To Step Up

[bumblebee 2,528]

5 minutes ago, LePetitMonstr said:

Still doesnt explain this but go off

This explains it perfectly. Grammy voting members are mostly white males, often aged above 40. That’s why they mostly nominate male musicians.

How can we change that?

By having more women in the Academy, OR completely changing the way Grammys work by withdrawing the free voting process and applying  some ethic standards for nominations and winners choice. 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

16 minutes ago, bumblebee said:

«It has to begin with… women who have the creativity in their hearts and souls, who want to be musicians, who want to be engineers, producers, and want to be part of the industry on the executive level… [They need] to step up because I think they would be welcome. I don’t have personal experience of those kinds of brick walls that you face but I think it’s upon us — us as an industry — to make the welcome mat very obvious, breeding opportunities for all people who want to be creative and paying it forward and creating that next generation of artists.»

That’s his full quote. What media are now trying to do is to completely rip it off it’s context  and make it look as though the Grammys president said that women lost awards because they didn’t step up.

He didn’t, though, he was answering the question on why women didn’t win more awards and what can be done so that they could win more. He gave his vision on the formula: have creativity in hearts and souls and be the sort of musician to step up, and maybe you would be welcomed and the members would vote for you. Which sounds sort of right for any musician who wants to succeed, regardless of gender.

He also said that there need to be more female engineers, female producers, and more women on executive level, because women then would be better represented in the academy voting members. 

People tend to forget that there is no single Council in the Academy which determines the winners. Hundreds, if not thousands of members vote in a free voting, and the question itself should have been posed in a different manner:  how can we make sure that more members vote for women at the Grammys? 

Well he meant that we need to have more women with the right to vote in the Academy in the first place, by having more female engineers, producers and executives. And also more creative and heartful and envelope pushing music to match that. 

The way people wish to start the drama is beyond. 

It's still overwhelmingly men being nominated and winning The comment is still dumb, even if its less black and white than its being reported on as. Women are already making incredible, quality music, some would argue thats far eclipsing their competition, but its just not being recognized. Female producers, engineers, producers, executives exist already. The point is that there are barriers that are preventing them from rising to the top. Its nothing to do with them "stepping up" at all. On top of that, the idea that we should need women to be in these voting positions speaks volumes about the current situation. I'm obviously for more women in these positions, but how sad is it that we should need them  

I do agree however that the question 'how can we get more members to vote for women at the Grammys" would have been more productive.

 

[bumblebee 2,528]

1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

It's still overwhelmingly men being nominated and winning The comment is still dumb, even if its less black and white than its being reported on as. Women are already making incredible, quality music, some would argue thats far eclipsing their competition, but its just not being recognized. Female producers, engineers, producers, executives exist already. The point is that there are barriers that are preventing them from rising to the top. Its nothing to do with them "stepping up" at all. On top of that, the idea that we should need women to be in these voting positions speaks volumes about the current situation. I'm obviously for more women in these positions, but how sad is it that we should need them  

I do agree however that the question 'how can we get more members to vote for women at the Grammys" would have been more productive.

 

However productive, such a question sadly, has almost no chances for practical solution. Each member of the Academy votes freely and we can’t control that. The voting person can pick anybody and there is no way to establish control over choice mechanics.  

The president’s answer is dumb in a way that it basically means: “oh, bug off, don’t ask me about this shiz, I don’t wanna get fired. Just somehow get more women on the voting board and then you women will vote for nominated women.”

The assumption that women with voting rights will vote women only is sort of low key sexist, right? Grammy is about music preferences and not gender lobbyism, right?

 he sort of accepts the fact  that male members of the academy tend to vote male nominees, so in order to  overbalance it women need, in his opinion, to have more voting women in the Academy, too. Which depicts a horrible thing in the industry, for men voting men because they are men and not because of music is awful, but women voting women because they are women and not because of music is equally awful. 

Which just shows us that vanquishing sexism in culture is a lot more complicated and slower-paced than vanquishing legal sexist discrimination. I think it will take some time before we get unbiased voting members in the academy who would vote for winners because of music and not gender.

[Bye 3,947]

"Women need to step it up creatively" ????

What the actual F**K

How about we start expecting better from men? Or at least judging women's music the same way we do men? Gaga has been stepping it up all her career. BTW was so different from other pop albums and was not recognised. With Joanne she stepped it up again by going in a direction no one expected from her. And she was not recognised.

F**K this ****. The music industry is a culture of misogyny.

[FGGrayson 9,670]

He is lowkey getting drag in tweeter, i hope more people speak about it and blow up

[Wolf 1,328]

Women artists bared their emotions and soul tonight, only for an old white man to tell them to "step it up."  

[DoremonLove 8,147]

What woman really needs o do is STEP on him with these heels

[Sweet Olive 422]

Shut up! The best music nowadays is made by women!

[Addison Rae 16,799]

This is some bullshit. How about you don’t ****ing decide what women should do and NOMINATE women because of THEIR talent. I’m gonna need Gaga to boycott this disgusting award show from now on if they keep awarding no-show white mediocrity.

Some of the men who were nominated were absolute garbage, where do they have to “step it up”? Miss me with this bullshit! 

[lovespent 115]

Female artists should boycott next year's ceremony. 

[Stef 61,598]

We really out here praising and acclaiming the mediocre white male for doing the absolute bare minimum meanwhile women are expected to jump through ****ing hoops only to be possibly considered  

[Guest]

This industry especially earns millions by objectifying and sexualizing women. It sadly is a routine which has existed for decades and still, even during #metoo, so many women/men - musicians and listeners- are in some way shying away to speak about it, but it affects them in the same way. Music and the way you put it out have a global influence on society. 

[Mister G 10,430]

This man is another example of what's wrong with our society, and why women have launched campaigns such as "Times Up" and "Me Too." What kind of ignorant mess 🤦🏽‍♂️

[swakby 4,100]

5 hours ago, Dan21 said:

What a disgusting RAT. Is he suggesting that the 4 women nominated in the Pop categories were less CREATIVE than Ed Sheeran's Sia plagiarism? 

I know we talk **** about award shows every year, but I feel like this year’s Grammys specifically missed the mark in a big way.

So tone deaf and so incredibly stupid. You're talking about movements like #MeToo and #TimesUp, but you're shitting on every woman nominated? Get the f+ck out. The level hypocrisy is out of this world, to be honest. Stop using real sh+t like that for ATTENTION if you're going to treat women like pure sh+t. 

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Women are real artists too, you ugly mother****er. Embarrassing. 

I could not have summed it up better!!. 

[Mister G 10,430]

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