Bio 23,538 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Interstellar said: Also, for the record; Beyonce had folk/country/americana on Lemonade before pop girls made it a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo 3,781 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Tbh i'm not surprised if they give it to Kesha because of #metoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Kesha's album is actually better than Joanne. The writing is better, the melodies are less forced, the instrumentals are better. The song "Rainbow" is one of the best songs of the last few years. Praying, however, isn't very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas 34 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Popo said: Tbh i'm not surprised if they give it to Kesha because of #metoo I Think so too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Best Pop Solo - Praying Best Pop Vocal - Joanne /thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,499 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 You’re really gonna sit there and say MR is better than Praying? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 375 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Ed Sheeran will probably beat them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 MR and Praying are on the same level for me but Joanne >> Rainbow because tracks like Woman really cheapen Rainbow, the first half of the record is literally love yourself anthems https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: You’re really gonna sit there and say MR is better than Praying? Really? It is. Gaga butchers Kesha's vocals within seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Versace said: Ok I'm sorry , I'm one of the more sophisticated commenters on GGD ever since 2013 but I will rip this post apart. Let's start with the title "Kesha doesn't deserve a Grammy" is a petty title/opinion for the following reasons 1-As a Gaga fan on a Gaga site, you will undoubtedly have bias in some shape or form which gives little to no value to your very own subjectivity 2-You could easily express your opinion/title in a more refined manner cause all it spells out is "Bitter" over something that didn't even happen yet. You could have easily titled it "Gaga deserves to win both her nominations". 3-If you even were aware of the Grammys, you would know that there is no consistency or pattern that they follow when it comes to awarding thus "who deserves it or not" will not factor in. Many artists are worthy, that is why they have nominations. You can not expect one album or one song to be superior to all others just because it got a Grammy or just because you think so. A Grammy is a nod of appreciation rather than the song or album being superior to anyone elses. After all the Grammy comity does not represent the choice of the world. Let's address that you think she should not win because it would "be a feel good moment after all she went through" 1-It is not like she's being nominated cause the Grammys felt sorry for her lmfao. You yourself are aware that the album is good. The Grammy comity are cut throat when it comes to nominations, you seriously think they'll think twice. If they do award her, it won't be cause of her personal life but cause the music is good. 2-Winning because of what she went through is an added bonus and not the primary reason why she should win. It would be a glory story that shall inspire millions but hey let's overlook that since no one cares about being inspired I guess lol. "Gaga's Joanne and MR have better vocals , better lyrics, and a more creative production" 1-Bias all over 2-Praying has a wider vocal range than MR btw and better lyrics in my opinion and I'm a Gaga stan 3-More creative production ? Sis it's mostly guitar based not some instrument from the year 3000 "Gaga sort of set...." 1-Gaga set nothing, Joanne sounds like many Country Pop albums lol (production and tone wise) 2-Yet many Gaga fans get pressed when People say Madonna set the tone for Gaga "Critics also boosted their reviews towards Rainbow" 1-Did they tell you that personally over tea while reading rumor threads on GGD ? 2-Don't take this from Kesha just cause you don't appreciate her musical genius as much as others From my point of view and I'm basing it only on the music that I enjoyed more Praying deserves the award over MR = Praying is vocally more impressive and is lyrically more appealing, to me at least. Besides Gaga has 6 Grammys, Kesha has none and I think Praying is the highlight of her Career. Gaga's highlight was Bad Romance. Joanne deserves the album award over Rainbow = Both are Great albums, Joanne is just more cohesive lyrically and sonically. Legit that is the only reason I believe it should win over Rainbow. If both can win, hell yea why not. I don't need to minimize an artist to make a point that another artist is superior. You wouldn't like it if a Kesha fan made a similar thread like this about Gaga not deserving the award. Have a nice day Sir. I agree with half of what you said. Specially the first half. I should have worded the title differently. But what i am trying to say is basically that Kesha does not deserve the Grammys over Gaga. If Kesha ends up winning then good for her, I just think Gaga has better music. Now you say that Praying is better than MR simply because of the range. But the only part that is truly impressive is the one high note in the song. MR has much better vocals than praying all throughout, high note or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: You’re really gonna sit there and say MR is better than Praying? Really? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josip 3,971 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Well, Americans always tend to give awards according to their current social and political climate, to 'snubbed' artists etc. Therefore, Kesha and Ed have a big chance of winning pop solo and pop album respectively. Let's be real, from Grammy to Oscar awards, it is never just about quality, and sometimes even that's missing (check Ed). More importantly, number of awards, especially American ones, tells nothing about one's quality, so y'all shouldn't be pissed if Gaga goes home empty-handed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 lord.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Actually I like Gaga more as an artist but I believe that Kesha has both the better song and the better album I don't understand how MR has a "creative production" or even "better vocals" than Praying. It's a BEAUTIFUL song but it's pretty traditional in terms of productions/lyrics/vocal style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 i hope ed gets 0 grammys though thats what matters the most Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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