twigsnasty 621 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 ***this is just my opinion***, but I think ARTPOP had a stronger concept that Joanne. AP was an explosion of pain & depression after (hip) injuries, bad relationships, and drugs&alcohol addiction. ARTPOP was meant for people who couldn't find a light, so Gaga gave them that light by showing that they were not alone in their problems. Sure, Gaga didn't do as good a job at showing that in the music (probably cuz we never got visuals), but it still was an amazing body of work. Joanne, on the other hand, still had the emotion ARTPOP had, but the concept was hard(er) to relate to for the fans. Joanne was basically about how a death took a toll on her family as she was growing up, but we never got the whole story. How did Joanne (person) become such an important part of Gaga's life, but she never met the woman? There must have been an event in family that supported the concept of Joanne , that Gaga has not been open about. We don't know for sure. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanum 5,159 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The concept of ARTPOP is: I Wantth your Love...I Wantth your Love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fascination 1,130 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Overrated AF* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3L04DED J 1,589 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, HYPODERMIC0 said: conceptually is WAAAAAAAAY better than Joanne Okay but what's a concept if it's outcome isn't as good. What use is a big but flaccid cock? Rowt ay soyng aybouwt yer eyesh, ayt ay sliysche ohf cherreh pye. Eye crei'd awl noiyght. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,418 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, King J said: Okay but what's a concept if it's outcome isn't as good. What use is a big but flaccid cock? Y’all need to learn to separate what happened during the ARTPOP Era from the album itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,418 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, lavendermusic said: ***this is just my opinion***, but I think ARTPOP had a stronger concept that Joanne. AP was an explosion of pain & depression after (hip) injuries, bad relationships, and drugs&alcohol addiction. ARTPOP was meant for people who couldn't find a light, so Gaga gave them that light by showing that they were not alone in their problems. Sure, Gaga didn't do as good a job at showing that in the music (probably cuz we never got visuals), but it still was an amazing body of work. Joanne, on the other hand, still had the emotion ARTPOP had, but the concept was hard(er) to relate to for the fans. Joanne was basically about how a death took a toll on her family as she was growing up, but we never got the whole story. How did Joanne (person) become such an important part of Gaga's life, but she never met the woman? There must have been an event in family that supported the concept of Joanne , that Gaga has not been open about. We don't know for sure. Thoughts? You mean, an explosion of joy in which her pain is hidden. sure, there are different interpretations but i think the correct one, which if i recall is also Gaga’s is that she took all her pain and transformed into something explosive and full of joy , in order to exorcise that pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto 13,436 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Y'all know I'm the biggest ARTPOP stan, but there's no need to trash some of her work to praise the other. OT: we been knew Free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I love ARTPOP. Actually I adore all her albums! And those videos you posted have better visuals and editing than any Joanne videos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3L04DED J 1,589 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, HYPODERMIC0 said: Y’all need to learn to separate what happened during the ARTPOP Era from the album itself. N n n n no Lemmie explain, I'm on about the album itself - I don't think it was as well executed (writing, production, vocals) as Joanne is. Sorry I didn't really make that clear. I am really objective about the album, disregarding events - because it was such an amazing and beautiful era I will always remember it <3 Rowt ay soyng aybouwt yer eyesh, ayt ay sliysche ohf cherreh pye. Eye crei'd awl noiyght. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 40,903 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, FrankGutz said: Ha best album, preach it, Joanne can choke I was gonna say something but I remembered I’m on thin ice. OT: but Aura slaps every time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,418 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, King J said: N n n n no Lemmie explain, I'm on about the album itself - I don't think it was as well executed (writing, production, vocals) as Joanne is. Sorry I didn't really make that clear. I am really objective about the album, disregarding events - because it was such an amazing and beautiful era I will always remember it <3 K then, but even on this matter i think ARTPOP has a heavier but of course also better production than Joanne. Joanne has a very light production, it is also kinda uncomparable to ARTPOP. They’re literally two different genres. I think it’s easier tho to make some easy melodies with a guitar than produce heavy beats like in ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk 526 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 it's her second best album after born this way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEXODUS 5,927 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 It's as underrated as Joanne is overrated imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 54 minutes ago, King J said: Okay but what's a concept if it's outcome isn't as good. What use is a big but flaccid cock? THIS Pop Tart may have had a better concept since it was a clash of multiple ideas. Joanne was only focused on finding identity and her aunt being a part of her. Joanne destroys Pop Tart musically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigsnasty 621 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, HYPODERMIC0 said: You mean, an explosion of joy in which her pain is hidden. sure, there are different interpretations but i think the correct one, which if i recall is also Gaga’s is that she took all her pain and transformed into something explosive and full of joy , in order to exorcise that pain. maybe its a little bit of both? but yeah you're right how could i mix those up sksksk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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