Gaga, I love you, but....

[just another gay 836]

Gaga is not the one to blame, but the "you let her flop" concept is not true.

Look at Witness and yet how many countries and shows KP is doing.

(Well, even tho not really sure about what her next tour will be like...)

[FameHookah 4,625]

15 hours ago, andy232000 said:

ya´ll need to understand that Latin American countries do not listen to gaga or any other music that is not reggeaton or latin pop. there is no demand whatsoever for her to come. Its expensive, tiresome, and difficult to bring a production here when the ticket sales are not gonna cover the actual costs. Its not gaga´s fault. sometimes logistics are just too complicated and not in the best interest of the tour. people are being so dramatic over it. Yes, its sad we dont get to see her, but its not her fault and its quite frankly out of both hers and our hands. 

also, OMG why did you take her quote about coming back to Argentina so literal jees... like stop already you Argentinians sound like spoiled kids whining because you´re not getting the toy they said you would get

 

Then why perry ariana and even becky g (and even smaller artists) came here to México even tho they sold less than Joanne?

[Salvador Sequea 813]

She has never (ever) came to my country and I'm pretty sure she would never (ever) come .

Being realistic, I think she would flop hard anyways here because most of the Latin countries are kind of poor and making up a show like the JWT is something I know much people wouldn't go because of the lack of money . 

I feel like would be even more painful not having the money to see an artist performing in just a couple of block from your house .

[Saade Baena 1,786]

Gaga is not a huge popstar anymore

So theres no demand for her in some countries. We need understand

[Runway 27,876]

9 minutes ago, Saade Baena said:

Gaga is not a huge popstar anymore

So theres no demand for her in some countries. We need understand

This fairytale 

Beyonce didnt tour neither Asia or Latin America, does that mean there’s no demand elsewhere? Lol

[andy232000 11,786]

4 hours ago, FameHookah said:

Then why perry ariana and even becky g (and even smaller artists) came here to México even tho they sold less than Joanne?

Gurl wtf no. Perry came with PRISM and Ariana cake with Dangerous Woman. Both successful all time high point in their careers (And that spun multiple hits both) what you talking bout?? And FYI, Katy brought her Latin American tour with a significantly smaller stage, less visuals and less songs to fit her stage and accommodate it properly cause again, her show was too expensive and big to bring to Latin America. Ariana also had a different and smaller stage. That goes to show that they came but still had to subdue themselves to the complicated jet indisputable complications that Latin America imposed on their spectacles. Just b cause they took the time to build a new show just foa Latin America it doesn’t mean Gaga will do it too.

 

[Leeo 2,366]

1 minute ago, andy232000 said:

Gurl wtf no. Perry came with PRISM and Ariana cake with Dangerous Woman. Both successful all time high point in their careers (And that spun multiple hits both) what you talking bout?? And FYI, Katy brought her Latin American tour with a significantly smaller stage, less visuals and less songs to fit her stage and accommodate it properly cause again, her show was too expensive and big to bring to Latin America. Ariana also had a different and smaller stage. That goes to show that they came but still had to subdue themselves to the complicated jet indisputable complications that Latin America imposed on their spectacles. Just b cause they took the time to build a show doesn’t mean Gaga will do it too.

 

 

Katy is coming to Mexico with Witness tho lol (and they're promising it as a "full stage", we'll see.)

The thing is, every artist have it's own way of doing their show. Taylor Swift couldn't do Latin America on The 1989 Tour because of her HUGE catwalk and it wasn't possible to do the show without that (on HER concept). It would  flat since the catwalk was the WOW factor.

Madonna & Gaga in 2012 signed the deal worth of millions because of their huge stages or no concert would happen.

Other artists like Katy & Miley did "tone down" the whole thing but not only for Latin America. Katy's Prismatic Tour in Asia had the same setup. Miley's concert was a tragedy that's not worth to mention because of the stage setup but that's how each artist goes.

The Joanne STADIUM setup btw isn't really anything special. Small catwalk and screens... they actually produce these down in Argentina and Brazil. They could re-create the stadium setup easily. It's pretty clear Gaga's team didn't want to bring the show and that's it. Some artists do tone their concerts down for the fans around the world, some others don't.

[andy232000 11,786]

3 minutes ago, Leeo said:

 

Katy is coming to Mexico with Witness tho lol (and they're promising it as a "full stage", we'll see.)

The thing is, every artist have it's own way of doing their show. Taylor Swift couldn't do Latin America on The 1989 Tour because of her HUGE catwalk and it wasn't possible to do the show without that (on HER concept). It would  flat since the catwalk was the WOW factor.

Madonna & Gaga in 2012 signed the deal worth of millions because of their huge stages or no concert would happen.

Other artists like Katy & Miley did "tone down" the whole thing but not only for Latin America. Katy's Prismatic Tour in Asia had the same setup. Miley's concert was a tragedy that's not worth to mention because of the stage setup but that's how each artist goes.

The Joanne STADIUM setup btw isn't really anything special. Small catwalk and screens... they actually produce these down in Argentina and Brazil. They could re-create the stadium setup easily. It's pretty clear Gaga's team didn't want to bring the show and that's it. Some artists do tone their concerts down for the fans around the world, some others don't.

Oh Katy came to my country but with Prism, didn’t know she was going to Mexico with Witness. Then again, Mexico is not that hard to travel to when compared to South America. 

I heard Asia is also very picky when bringing artist and equipment, I think that’s why Katy literally re-did her tour. 

I was thinking that Gaga could tour her stadium show but her team isn’t as compliant as Katy o Ariana who would water down their shows to give the fans something. 

[LM 4,067]

15 hours ago, Florian said:

France has a really special music market and her numbers aren't that bad compared to her international peers.

But most importantly, the demand isn't about singles and albums but about who would buy a ticket for a show (ofc those two are still linked to a certain extent). Unfortunatelly not every countries have a strong enough economy and spending power to sell out an arena or two. And even with "weak sales" people from countries like France will still easily spend money for entertainment.  

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"France has a really special music market and her numbers aren't that bad compared to her international peers"

They are. Also, how is French music market special?

She would sell more tickets in Brazil than in France. Doing 2 arena shows in a capital city of a country with "strong enough economy and spending power" is not really good

[Florian 19,982]

7 minutes ago, LM said:

"France has a really special music market and her numbers aren't that bad compared to her international peers"

They are. Also, how is French music market special?

She would sell more tickets in Brazil than in France. Doing 2 arena shows in a capital city of a country with "strong enough economy and spending power" is not really good

French doesn't consume much. The numbers of sales are quite low in general. On top of that the album charts are completely dominated by French speaking artists. You'll very rarelly see an international artists top album charts because they just don't sell enough.

[A Hybrid 11,049]

21 hours ago, LGQOP said:

They should buy her music and not let her flop in their country and then maybe she’ll go. If the country doesnt show demand theres no point to going there. Not for Brazil tho, they deserve better. 

There is point in going there though, it's not about how many fans she has there, the way Gaga describes the relationship between her and us is like mother and children. It should be beyond numbers. We're not mad, just disappointed

[Gaga Lazuli 8,658]

1 minute ago, A Hybrid said:

There is point in going there though, it's not about how many fans she has there, the way Gaga describes the relationship between her and us is like mother and children. It should be beyond numbers. We're not mad, just disappointed

True but the promoters dont care about that relationship, they care about the money. I never said its Gagas fault, if there is no demand for her in a certain country the promoters wont bring her there. 

[FGGrayson 9,670]

3 hours ago, andy232000 said:

Oh Katy came to my country but with Prism, didn’t know she was going to Mexico with Witness. Then again, Mexico is not that hard to travel to when compared to South America. 

I heard Asia is also very picky when bringing artist and equipment, I think that’s why Katy literally re-did her tour. 

I was thinking that Gaga could tour her stadium show but her team isn’t as compliant as Katy o Ariana who would water down their shows to give the fans something. 

yet shes been ignoring us too since BTW, so i guess is because she doesnt wanna come, the rest of excuses are dumb

[SwissMonster 29,120]

Do you really think it has to do something with the sales? I mean I am from Switzerland and the album wasn’t incredibly sold so good. She even came for C2C in Switzerland. I mean  But anyways... I am sorry for south america and hope they get their Gaga Shows as soon as possible 

[SwissMonster 29,120]

12 minutes ago, FrankGutz said:

yet shes been ignoring us too since BTW, so i guess is because she doesnt wanna come, the rest of excuses are dumb

You really think SHE doesn’t wanna come? Like, SHE don’t wanna meet her fans?