PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Easy said: Idk what will the Russian government do to her. It might be more than just a ban tbh. As much as I know she loves us gays, I don’t think she should risk her own life for it. They literally can't do anything. She's not russian, she's a worldwide superstar. She'd be overprotected by her team. I mean the one who get hurt are the anonymous russians protesting in their village. Nothing happened to her during her Russian show in Moscow, with much more provocative words, at a time where the light weren't over her as much as they would be for the world cup (no one except fans were following her tour). She was much more vulnerable then than she would be now, given the circumstances. Russia won't do anything as they have nothing to win if they do. And that's why Gaga's has to do something if she performs, she'd be the person with the most power to change things if she has a mic in the middle of that stadium broadcasted worldwide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Original Diva said: It's about FIFA. Not politics. Can't we just leave politics out of all of this it's not plain politics if lives are on the table. Addressing Trump during the Super Bowl would have been an error. But this is not politics, it's for human rights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Rae 16,718 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 that’s a quick way to start a war and get our girl killed sis the people watching won’t want to hear any political discussion. I’m here for Gaga speaking on issues but I don’t want her kidnapped and jailed by the Russian government sitting on his lap sipping diet pepsi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erfaan 2,815 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I love this idea but I'd be so worried for her safety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Monster 959 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 She won't do anything political if she indeed performs there. The organizers will make her swear on her blood that she'll keep politics out of her performance. If she breaks this promise the backlash will be MASSIVE. Remember that majority of the world's population are homophobes who think propaganda can make their children gay. She won't change their minds and might actually spur waves of homophobic hysteria around the world. I'm not sure if it's worth it. Russia government won't do anything to her though, they're not that stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstring 1,862 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 she can do it in other ways, not in a provocative way she will pissed off Russia, and someone like gaga in their eyes means nothing to them, i mean.... Little little Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Diva 4,966 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said: it's not plain politics if lives are on the table. Addressing Trump during the Super Bowl would have been an error. But this is not politics, it's for human rights I understand that.. But I can see this turning into a huge mess.. Well that's if it happened. excuse me no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,592 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, PerfectGUY said: They literally can't do anything. She's not russian, she's a worldwide superstar. She'd be overprotected by her team. I mean the one who get hurt are the anonymous russians protesting in their village. Nothing happened to her during her Russian show in Moscow, with much more provocative words, at a time where the light weren't over her as much as they would be for the world cup (no one except fans were following her tour). She was much more vulnerable then than she would be now, given the circumstances. Russia won't do anything as they have nothing to win if they do. And that's why Gaga's has to do something if she performs, she'd be the person with the most power to change things if she has a mic in the middle of that stadium broadcasted worldwide You take this thing like casual business. Her team can't do shxt if Russia decides to barred her from leaving their soil because of what she said or done that is against the law while there. Gaga and her team are only visitors who are bound and succumbed to the law that takes place locally. It is just general thing to know, look at how those Middle East countries arresting Western tourists for some silly stuffs, but actually punishable by law over there. Example: that British guy who brushed his hand against local guy's hip No matter who you are and what you do, when you are not in your own country, you are vulnerable and expected to follow the local law or face consequences. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ dancin' until i'm dead (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: that’s a quick way to start a war and get our girl killed sis the people watching won’t want to hear any political discussion. I’m here for Gaga speaking on issues but I don’t want her kidnapped and jailed by the Russian government 47 minutes ago, Earthfan said: I love this idea but I'd be so worried for her safety again, if there's one person not to worry about it's her. They kidnap, kill... when they know no one will notice it. I mean, if they kidnap Gaga, we all know how bad the world would be stumbling. + : it's not a enough of a reason to kidnap her. + : it's not in their interest AT ALL. They won't win anything doing this. They do kidnap/kill people TO PUT SOME ISSUES UNDER SILENCE. HOWEVER IF THEY KIDNAP/HURT GAGA IT WOULD POINT OUT THE ISSUE EVEN MORE AS SHE IS THE MOST PUBLIC PERSON IN THE WORLD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 When you're a "foreign" you still have rules to follow. They can, yes, arrest her or, in a "lighter scenario", they can sue her. But it's like, a worlwide scandal and that's the thing. And also, the criticism around her. Remember when people enjoyed super bowl because "she left politics out of it". It's not the place, it's not the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, RAMROD said: You take this thing like casual business. Her team can't do shxt if Russia decides to barred her from leaving their soil because of what she said or done that is against the law while there. Gaga and her team are only visitors who are bound and succumbed to the law that takes place locally. It is just general thing to know, look at how those Middle East countries arresting Western tourists for some silly stuffs, but actually punishable by law over there. Example: that British guy who brushed his hand against local guy's hip No matter who you are and what you do, when you are not in your own country, you are vulnerable and expected to follow the local law or face consequences. I understand. Your point is right if you talk about a regular guy. 'No matter who you are' : NO, it's sad (or good in our case), but IT DOES matter. Russia won't do anything if that happens, because it's not in their interest AT ALL. They have nothing to win over this. If they do, they will face HUGE insurgence and pressure from everyone. + it will shed light on the LGBT problem EVEN MORE. They won't do anything if that happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Leeo said: And also, the criticism around her. Remember when people enjoyed super bowl because "she left politics out of it". Again, the Trump situation for the SuperBowl and LGBT rights for the world cups are two totally different things. Once was about politics. (and I think she did good leaving politics aside) This one is about human rights. (and I think it would be a mistake not mentioning the persecuted LGBT) She would face even more criticism saying she's a hypocrite performing for a country bashing the rights she promoted during all of her life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said: Again, the Trump situation for the SuperBowl and LGBT rights for the world cups are two totally different things. Once was about politics. (and I think she did good leaving politics aside) This one is about human rights. (and I think it would be a mistake not mentioning the persecuted LGBT) She would face even more criticism saying she's a hypocrite performing for a country bashing the rights she promoted during all of her life Yes. That's why she shouldn't perform. How you want to point out politics as it wasn't human rights?? People don't like Trump because of his actions againsn't humans in general. This woman was on the other day creating polls on twitter with "would you fight with kindness or violence" do you really think she would go to Russia create a shitstorm and then leave in peace... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy 5,305 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I think a better way would be her also perform Born This Way or Come To Mama instead of making an explicit statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy 5,305 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 And I think doing a World Cup song isn’t about celebrating the hosting country, it’s more about celebrating soccer right? If not they would have asked a Russian native this time or African native instead of Shakira before. So i don’t really see the hypocrisy if Gaga do this gig, she can literally promote kindness, equality with a festive song made for the world’s soccer fans and also promote the message she wanted to promote in Russia, a place where she possibly hates too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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