Oivind 287 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 10 hours ago, FalsePromise said: And what do we know about Putin and Kim except what media serves us?! and we all know how media works. If people in those countries feel and live good, why does anyone have to interfere. The main problem in the world is the USA, that's as clear as day, they want to control the world and be the #1 force, that's why they start wars everywhere not giving a **** about people who live there, they try to establish themselves as some "peace makers" by constantly doing the opposite, starting wars. This time around they're scared of North Korea cuz of its nuclear power which makes them unable to control it. Say what you want but USA's greed is the main problem in the world RN. You actually believe people are OK in North Korea and Russia? I don't believe everything I read in the media, but I don't believe there's a big conspiracy against Russia or North Korea either. I'm sure plenty of people are happy with what they've got in Russia, but that's no excuse to take away the freedom from all those who are not happy. What's it like to be gay in Russia, do you think? Anyway, this is beside the point. Hitler didn't just commit crimes against germans, he should have been stopped before he invaded Czechoslovakia or Poland. As late as 1938, he probably could have been stopped, if the UK had stood up to him. And NATO/USA should stand up to Putin if he makes any kind of move against his neighbors. Not standing up to dictators who invade their neighbors is the wrong way to create peace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalsePromise 424 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 10:20 PM, Oivind said: You actually believe people are OK in North Korea and Russia? I don't believe everything I read in the media, but I don't believe there's a big conspiracy against Russia or North Korea either. I'm sure plenty of people are happy with what they've got in Russia, but that's no excuse to take away the freedom from all those who are not happy. What's it like to be gay in Russia, do you think? Anyway, this is beside the point. Hitler didn't just commit crimes against germans, he should have been stopped before he invaded Czechoslovakia or Poland. As late as 1938, he probably could have been stopped, if the UK had stood up to him. And NATO/USA should stand up to Putin if he makes any kind of move against his neighbors. Not standing up to dictators who invade their neighbors is the wrong way to create peace. First of all you need to understand that different nations have different history and above all different mentality! You can just shove gay rights or something that is considered normal in western culture into someone's throat (some Eastern nation). Eastern people think differently, they're very religious, close minded and impulsive, and complex things as bringing some western ideas about freedom will take decades to achieve, USA usually brings "democracy" by using and causing wars, and we all know that their "democracy" is just an excuse cuz the real reason is oil and strategic positions for their military bases. "Not standing up to dictators who invade their neighbors is the wrong way to create peace." I suppose you're talking about Crimea, and I'll tell you this, people of Crimea voted on referendum for joining Russia, and that was the right thing to do, let people decide. It's like love between two people that falls apart and someone else comes along, one person falls for him/her, and the other/left person wants to keep that one close to him by any means, it's wrong. For example part of my country was literally been ripped of with the help of USA, just so they could establish new military base and forcefully try to make a state, there has been no referendum or anything, their excuse was that my country was trying to make an ethnicity cleaning on that part of teritory. there was about 50% 50% of my nation and the other nation on that part of teritory, and at the and of that war there was 10% of my nation and 90% of the other nation. Yet they still claim we tried to exile someone. It's absurd as any other war, it's never about the better of people but only for politics and money! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oivind 287 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 29.12.2017 at 11:18 AM, FalsePromise said: "Not standing up to dictators who invade their neighbors is the wrong way to create peace." I suppose you're talking about Crimea, No, I'm talking about the support I'm sure Putin gives to separatist movements in Ukraine. I'm talking about how he will probably need to create more conflicts abroad, when his popularity falls. It's something dictators have always done, to put a lid on internal conflicts. This is just "realpolitik", and the question of gay rights etc. is a separate question. But when it comes to that question, I'll state my position as clearly as I can: People who don't support gay rights, or who discriminates people in any way whatsoever, are just plain wrong, and their beliefs are not just different from mine, they are inferior. I know I can't force my views down their throats, but their views are still inferior to mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I mean they always say that. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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