Trump to rich friends: "You all just got a lot richer"

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6 minutes ago, GoldenPonyboy said:

Its crazy to think that multiple people did it bit she is the only one who got ish for it. I wonder why.... 

Probably because Trump supporters already have a dozen reasons to hate Manson.

EDIT: I mean a million raisins

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1 minute ago, Sailor said:

Probably because Trump supporters already have a dozen reasons to hate Manson.

EDIT: I mean a million raisins

They arleady had a million reasons to hate on kathy too. Shes always taking jabs at republicans. She has a whole bit on palin

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Just now, GoldenPonyboy said:

They arleady had a million reasons to hate on kathy too. Shes always taking jabs at republicans. She has a whole bit on palin

Maybe it's because Manson isn't mainstream anymore? Or at least, wasn't until his new album came out.

I'm pretty sure there was outcry over what he did anyway, though. Just as much.

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9 minutes ago, GoldenPonyboy said:

Its crazy to think that multiple people did it bit she is the only one who got ish for it. I wonder why.... 

I was just thinking about this the other day. Manson, Snoop Dogg, other male celebrities have some something like this, yet Kathy is the only one who was blacklisted from Hollywood and put on both the no-fly list AND the Interpol list. Crazy how sexism is so visible 

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1 hour ago, BabyMonster said:

This is gonna be in my nightmares now. 

Same. I was eating a chicken nugget and it made me uncomfortable while eating it and looking at this photo

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

Not poorer per say... just not much better off

 

The rich being taxed less in itself doesnt make us poorer. In fact there can be a slight benefit if Corporations invest more... also RSPs and stuff perform better

 

Its just the benefit middle class will get is tiny compared to the rich themselves

Tiny and temporary. Meanwhile, the bits that help the rich and corporations are permanent.

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3 hours ago, PartySick said:

Tiny and temporary. Meanwhile, the bits that help the rich and corporations are permanent.

Indeed. This is not a good way to stimulate economy much and is a waste of money

 

im just saying making poor people poorer is reaching

 

its not so much a matter making poor people poorer to make rich richer... its more like making rich richer while not doing much for the poor

 

The deficit will increase for only moderate benefits (at best) for the average person

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1 hour ago, LaLuna said:

You know, I didn't have the courage to say it because it's mean and I didn't want to get dragged, but... yeah, same.

I'm always grumpy on Christmas day so it kinda just came out  

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18 minutes ago, Economy said:

Indeed. This is not a good way to stimulate economy much and is a waste of money

 

im just saying making poor people poorer is reaching

 

its not so much a matter making poor people poorer to male rich richer... its more like making rich richer while not doing much for the poor

 

The deficit will increase for only moderate benefits (at best) for the average person

In all fairness to the commenter tho, the poor will be worse off when the GOP cuts the social safety net to pay for the tax plan. (If they can get away with it)

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2 hours ago, Economy said:

Not poorer per say... just not much better off

 

The rich being taxed less in itself doesnt make us poorer. In fact there can be a slight benefit if Corporations invest more... also RSPs and stuff perform better

 

Its just the benefit middle class will get is tiny compared to the rich themselves

But that assumes the rich will invest and the vast majority of them will not as we learned from Reagan-era trickle down. That, or they will invest in sectors that are growing like tech which *also* doesn’t help the middle class or poor. Obviously anyone is free to invest where they please, but it’s dumb to have federal initiatives focused on prolonging dying industries while at the same time providing a chance for the rich to further invest in the smarter, growing industries that will only keep chipping away at the dying industries.

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3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

But that assumes the rich will invest and the vast majority of them will not as we learned from Reagan-era trickle down. That, or they will invest in sectors that are growing like tech which *also* doesn’t help the middle class or poor. Obviously anyone is free to invest where they please, but it’s dumb to have federal initiatives focused on prolonging dying industries while at the same time providing a chance for the rich to further invest in the smarter, growing industries that will only keep chipping away at the dying industries.

I know... hence why i said small benefit  

 

The big tax cuts could definitely sway a few more companies to stay or move to America in relation to the ones offshoring

 

Also not every Corporation has large profit margins like the ellite ones you always hear of. This could help Corporations wanting to expand but are more cash strapped. Companies do want to grow... if more money is left with them some may invest more than without the tax cuts. Many Companies may simply pocket higher profits but any company in an advertizing or growth phase would take advantage of this!

 

In addition it may also help inflation slightly by reducing business costs

 

3rdly, average joes pensions and RSPS are invested in companies like these. Its not only the rich that own shares in them. Regular people to a smaller extent benefit if they do well

 

So to say there will be no benefit is very reaching. I think we can say with fair certainty there will be at least a modest benefit to the economy as a whole 

 

Its just that the benefits would be more significant if the tax cuts were more wide spread to include everyone rather than just the rich... There is some modest trickle down its just not as much as right-wingers like to believe

 

Instead these these tax cuts, although they will bring some benefit, its not enough benefit to justify their financial cost  

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4 hours ago, Flamboyant said:

Kathy was ahead of her time, a visionary 

If this came out now it wouldn't get half the backlash.

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50 minutes ago, Stan Is My Name said:

Kathy was ahead of her time, a visionary 

If this came out now it wouldn't get half the backlash.

 Especially not with the vast majority of Americans agreeing with the sentiment. Hell, his approval rating has been in the low 30's for at least a month now, if not, longer  That last 30% will never change their view tbh. I feel sorry for them. Anyone who can support Trump at this point either has very strange morals or they're totally ignorant of the world around them.

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Not to insult anyone here who still supports him, of course. I just don't understand y'all at all

Legislation aside, I think one of my biggest "f*ck you"'s I want to give to Trump is because he's spent over 100 days of his presidency (yeah, a third of it) on vacation at his golf resort here in Florida and the tax payers picked up the bill. He uses tax money to pay himself at his resort plus pay all the federal workers that follow the president and his family around (secret service included)  it's like three million bucks every time he goes and idk how anyone has yet to put a stop to it  How anyone could be such a spoiled rat is beyond me. Born with a silver spoon up his ass and the only things he knows how to do are lie, cheat, and steal. All of which he does very well and very often. Especially lying.

F*ck him, tbh  There's not enough space on the internet to contain all the literal hate I have for him.

3 hours ago, Economy said:

Indeed. This is not a good way to stimulate economy much and is a waste of money

im just saying making poor people poorer is reaching

its not so much a matter making poor people poorer to male rich richer... its more like making rich richer while not doing much for the poor

The deficit will increase for only moderate benefits (at best) for the average person

Yeah, for sure. I wasn't referencing your post at all, actually, so my apologies 

It's just unfortunate that the majority of the people that see that extra 50-500 bucks in their bank at the end of the year will say "thanks, Trump " meanwhile CEO's, Trump himself, and his mega-billionaire friends are walking around with unprecedented wealth and power that only grows.

I'm still amazed that he convinced a bunch of low class workers that repealing the estate tax and rolling back regulations on corporations would put more money into their pockets  though I guess there's a reason that the majority of the GOP's base is uneducated, white men while the vast majority of college educated people, especially young ones, veer heavily to the left.

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Again, not to be insulting. It's still a fact though

I can understand being personally conservative but supporting the GOP's economic plans makes zero sense to me. It's always to boost the power of the richest and to hell with the 99% (aka us) that it hurts.

I mean, how the hell can reducing regulations and lining the pockets of the mega-rich in the country be more important than education, protecting the environment, feeding the hungry, housing and clothing the poor, and treating the sick while preventing illness in the healthy? So damn backwards, it's deliberately detrimental to the rest of us 

We're coming for their asses in 2018 and 2020 though

...Sorry, rant over

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19 minutes ago, PartySick said:

 Especially not with the vast majority of Americans agreeing with the sentiment. Hell, his approval rating has been in the low 30's for at least a month now, if not, longer  That last 30% will never change their view tbh. I feel sorry for them. Anyone who can support Trump at this point either has very strange morals or they're totally ignorant of the world around them.

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Not to insult anyone here who still supports him, of course. I just don't understand y'all at all

Legislation aside, I think one of my biggest "f*ck you"'s I want to give to Trump is because he's spent over 100 days of his presidency (yeah, a third of it) on vacation at his golf resort here in Florida and the tax payers picked up the bill. He uses tax money to pay himself at his resort plus pay all the federal workers that follow the president and his family around (secret service included)  it's like three million bucks every time he goes and idk how anyone has yet to put a stop to it  How anyone could be such a spoiled rat is beyond me. Born with a silver spoon up his ass and the only things he knows how to do are lie, cheat, and steal. All of which he does very well and very often. Especially lying.

F*ck him, tbh  There's not enough space on the internet to contain all the literal hate I have for him.

Yeah, for sure. I wasn't referencing your post at all, actually, so my apologies 

It's just unfortunate that the majority of the people that see that extra 50-500 bucks in their bank at the end of the year will say "thanks, Trump " meanwhile CEO's, Trump himself, and his mega-billionaire friends are walking around with unprecedented wealth and power that only grows.

I'm still amazed that he convinced a bunch of low class workers that repealing the estate tax and rolling back regulations on corporations would put more money into their pockets  though I guess there's a reason that the majority of the GOP's base is uneducated, white men while the vast majority of college educated people, especially young ones, veer heavily to the left.

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Again, not to be insulting. It's still a fact though

I can understand being personally conservative but supporting the GOP's economic plans makes zero sense to me. It's always to boost the power of the richest and to hell with the 99% (aka us) that it hurts.

I mean, how the hell can reducing regulations and lining the pockets of the mega-rich in the country be more important than education, protecting the environment, feeding the hungry, housing and clothing the poor, and treating the sick while preventing illness in the healthy? So damn backwards, it's deliberately detrimental to the rest of us 

We're coming for their asses in 2018 and 2020 though

...Sorry, rant over

Economics is rarely linear. Going towards one direction can be beneficial then when u cross certain thresholds it can change and stuff

 

lesa regulation and taxes for rich could be a net positive for an over-regulated and over-taxed nation chocking business...

 

But then the same tax cuts in a country where rich already do well is no longer a net positive

 

depends on the cirumstances and where u are

 

US taxes for Corporations were so-so if u factored in the loop-holes. A cut of a few percentage points might have been beneficial... but down to 20% is more than necessairy. Here in Canada its 15% but we have less loop-holes plus we can financially afford it

 

If they droped corporate taxes only 5% then the rest middle class tax cuts, that woulda been way more effective!

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5 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

I was just thinking about this the other day. Manson, Snoop Dogg, other male celebrities have some something like this, yet Kathy is the only one who was blacklisted from Hollywood and put on both the no-fly list AND the Interpol list. Crazy how sexism is so visible 

But don't males alway get it considerably worse when it comes to crime/punishment? This doesnt really fit into the whole feminist agenda...