Thrasher 22,980 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Born This Way and Judas, Roar and Unconditionally, Hello and When We Were Young, Look What You Made Me Do and ...Ready For It? Second single of a frontloaded era is overshadowev by the first and people are way less thirsty that they were before waiting for the lead, let’s see if End Game becomes her Dark Horse or remains more quiet like The Edge of Glory or Send My Love (To Your New Lover). “Come over, when you’re sober” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 hours ago, FATCAT said: She's trying to rap. It doesn't work for her, and it makes her sound absolutely terrible. THIS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 hours ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: well MR kind of flopped, even though I heard this song a million times on radio, it's not popular on youtube or in the GP's mind Its soon to be 2x platinum, grammy nominated, has over 200m streams on youtube and over 175m streams on spotify Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Decodekid said: by chorus i meant the drop, which is simple af The sad truth Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Adga 8,664 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Bad song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggsy 8,280 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIghtmareElm 2,606 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 It just feels more like an intro to the album. I don't think it's bad. In fact, I think it's a great song. Welcome To New York is an intro to 1989 but wouldn't have done well as a single. I Did Something Bad or End Game would have been better as a second single. At least it made a debut in the top 5 so it's not a an all out flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea B 16,750 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 the song isn't that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oivind 287 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 12 hours ago, Ziggy said: Critics like Lorde more because of the way she goes about talking about her love. There’s a certain level of conscious awareness to call your album about heartache “Melodrama”. The perspective she has on a very relatable subject was the allure of it whereas Taylor’s perspective is still kind of petty. Then add in the musicality. Oh lord. Jack Antonoff is Lorde’s RedOne; they work so well together. If you listen to her go through the process of making, say, Sober (there’s a podcast on it), you hear all the layers of and thought and technical prowess that went into it. And it all just seems like this beautiful kaleidoscope of sounds that work together. And so critics who listen for such technique (above personal tastes) responded to her unique perspective on burgeoning youth. Reputation, meanwhile, says absolutely nothing about TSwift and her reputation beyond the obvious, AND her producers this time around are obviously not natural fits like Antonoff is to Lorde. I mean, listen to LWYMMD next to Sober (both Antonoff). The musicality just is on another level in Sober. It’s like RedOne making BR and then Dance on the Floor. Night and day difference because of chemistry. Obviously people will enjoy albums based on different things and that’s dope, I’m glad you like Reputation! But critics are supposed to dig into the nitty gritty and Melodrama soars a lot higher there than Reputation. I don't think you realize how subjective everything you say is. I have listened to "Reputation" many times, and the production is excellent, just like it was on "1989". The production suits the music just as well as the production on Lorde's album suits her music. The lyrics are pretty good too, as usual with Taylor Swift. There's no pettiness (have you even listened to the album?). I don't even see why some people see LWYMMD as petty. Just because she sings a song seen from the perspective of a petty and vengeful person, doesn't mean she is one. Some people read too much into her songs (like when they think this song is about that boyfriend). OTOH, the same people don't seem to get irony at all. It was pretty predictable that Lorde's album would be praised by critics, while critics are divided over Taylor Swift's album. The metacritic ratings are not far from what I would have guessed (91 for "Melodrama", 71 for "Reputation"). We all knew critics would be divided over Lady Gaga too, and they will continue to be. Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift are much more controversial than Lorde, and that's the only reason their albums score lower among critics. Some critics are overly concerned about their credibility and whether or not they're supposed to like an artist. So they come up with bullshit arguments which are obviously based on their perception of the artist, not on the music. Arguments like Taylor Swift lacking credibility when she (almost) raps, as if you can tell by listening to something that it lacks credibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I will not allow this disrespect for Reputation's best song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,321 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 hours ago, Ziggy said: Lol I meant in terms of polarizing decision making, that’s all. The horns were polarizing for sure, as is Taylor’s current image. I just made the comparison to say that every pop star does something not everyone will love. It’s inevitable once you reach a certain level of success. True, but it's the definition of an ARTIST 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oivind 287 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 17 hours ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: I'm sure I'm the biggest hiphop/rap fan on the website tbh, and I think she nailed it. She's not trying to be Eminem of course, but as a (white) pop girl, that's not bad at all I think she nailed it, too. She sounds very sexy singing/rapping like that, which is probably the intention. It suits the song very well. People are of course allowed to disagree with me, but I bet a lot of those who disagree, only disagree because of their perception of Taylor Swift. It's not that I think they are racist, but a white pop/country girl isn't supposed to rap. I think there's a lot of "who does she think she is?" going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Oivind said: I think she nailed it, too. She sounds very sexy singing/rapping like that, which is probably the intention. It suits the song very well. People are of course allowed to disagree with me, but I bet a lot of those who disagree, only disagree because of their perception of Taylor Swift. It's not that I think they are racist, but a white pop/country girl isn't supposed to rap. I think there's a lot of "who does she think she is?" going on. exactly my opinion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromadica 636 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 because it's bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresor 1,649 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 What a surprise, some gimmicks only last for so long. In all seriousness, I think Reputation has some serious identity issues and doubt any of the songs besides maybe Getaway Car will do that well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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