Beyoncé has writing credits for Perfect Duet

[Runway 27,876]

3 hours ago, KingRedd said:

Let’s take a seat and ponder these major facts that everyone here seems to try and make up in their own minds. 

FACT: None of us are in the studio or planning session with Beyoncé, Gaga, or any other artist. 

FACT: None of us know how much Beyoncé, Gaga or any other artist contributes to a song. 

Opinion: “Beyoncé adds a word” “Beyoncé adds easy harmony”

FACT: None of you have created a song or anything at that point that comes close to what Beyoncé has done and can do. Gaga included. 

So let’s let the artists be artists and just enjoy the music instead of throwing TIRED shade in every thread that mentions Beyoncé and attempting to be educated music specialists, engineers, or composers. 

 Cool? Cool 

But Beyonce hasn’t actually created any piece of music, she has a camp of producers and writers  

[mzncb 332]

22 minutes ago, JDi said:

lmao

perfection is a disease of a nation I guess 

J. Tillman is one of the many writers/producers who have confirmed the popular perception you dismissed as an opinion by saying that working with Beyoncé was everything he expected from writing for a pop star (a writing camp) and working with Gaga was a natural process and they were jammin'. not to mention everyone who has worked with Gaga says she's the real deal and it's telling enough that even though everyone has pressure-praised Beyoncé to the heavens, no one has dared to say she's a real musician/writer. not even her collection of Grammy's is enough to make such comments sound credible.

Even Britney Spears is more of a songwriter than Beyonce, despite the former not being much of a 'real' songwriter.

Britney composed that song 'Everytime' and she must get the benefit of the doubt because the co-writer only has one other (shared) writing credit to her name; meaning the co-writer was/is not a seasoned songwriter, producer or studio musician, just like Britney.

Every Beyonce hit has been co-written by an established/seasoned songwriter, producer or studio musician.

[JDi 1,495]

16 minutes ago, mzncb said:

Even Britney Spears is more of a songwriter than Beyonce, despite the former not being much of a 'real' songwriter.

Britney composed that song 'Everytime' and she must get the benefit of the doubt because the co-writer only has one other (shared) writing credit to her name; meaning the co-writer was/is not a seasoned songwriter, producer or studio musician, just like Britney.

Every Beyonce hit has been co-written by an established/seasoned songwriter, producer or studio musician.

yeah and I think that Britney has always chosen songs that are truly her personal taste and even the songs that were obviously meant to be singles all have a certain candy-perfumed feel to them. 

[KingRedd 3,139]

2 hours ago, LM said:

When did Gaga jump on a remix of a popular song and got a writing credit for changing the melody?

When did you decide not to actually absorb the contents of my post and randomly give an example that’s irrelevant to anything that I just said...

[KingRedd 3,139]

1 hour ago, Runway said:

But Beyonce hasn’t actually created any piece of music, she has a camp of producers and writers  

Again, you’re doing exactly what my post suggest. You’re assuming she sits in the corner and comes up with no melodies, no vocal arrangemts, nothing. How are her recording sessions? What does she do? I’m asking since you clearly are Present for these and know.

[LM 4,067]

4 minutes ago, KingRedd said:

When did you decide not to actually absorb the contents of my post and randomly give an example that’s irrelevant to anything that I just said...

I reacted exactly to what you said lol

[KingRedd 3,139]

1 hour ago, JDi said:

lmao

perfection is a disease of a nation I guess 

J. Tillman is one of the many writers/producers who have confirmed the popular perception you dismissed as an opinion by saying that working with Beyoncé was everything he expected from writing for a pop star (a writing camp) and working with Gaga was a natural process and they were jammin'. not to mention everyone who has worked with Gaga says she's the real deal and it's telling enough that even though everyone has pressure-praised Beyoncé to the heavens, no one has dared to say she's a real musician/writer. not even her collection of Grammy's is enough to make such comments sound credible.

Point me to where I said she writes her music? I guess I’ll explain again since the point was lost in my original post to you. 

Getting credits is fairly easy. One can change a hook, come up with melodies, create harmonies, or even just be present to receive a writing credit. Beyoncé OBVIOUSLY doesn’t write her lyrics. This point has been made in every Beyoncé thread and will be stated as shade in future Beyoncé threads. I could submit her a song and she could sing it however she felt was necessary and because she changed a melody, added a line, added 8 harmonies or key changes, she will be credited. 

When i said “Gaga Included” that was meant to be a statement saying Beyoncé and Gaga have both created and been apart of things that no one on here has been close to doing. Only the people in the studio know what happens in the studio. So that suggest that all you “fans” are simply giving opinions on what you “think” Beyoncé does or doesn’t do. It’s totally ol for Gaga to add a word or switch a melody and get credit but it’s not ok for Beyoncé? Lol stop letting stan hate lead you to believe that what you come up with in your mind about Beyoncé and her studio time is real. It’s simply an opinion. Clear? Hope so 

[KingRedd 3,139]

6 minutes ago, LM said:

I reacted exactly to what you said lol

Clearly not since you and a few others missed the entire point... but ok 

[LM 4,067]

Just now, KingRedd said:

Clearly not since you and a few others missed the entire point... but ok 

Well, then you probably weren't clear enough with your message

[KingRedd 3,139]

1 minute ago, LM said:

Well, then you probably weren't clear enough with your message

Or, stay with me, you ignored the obvious points in my post  to attempt to “shade” or “drag” me, emphasis on attempt. Most LM who hate Beyoncé feel that everything they say about her is fact. You are like many others and will only see or comprehend what you want- or as much as you can...  either way, go back and read my post or just keep being a Beyoncé hater lol life moves on. 

[LM 4,067]

3 minutes ago, KingRedd said:

Or, stay with me, you ignored the obvious points in my post  to attempt to “shade” or “drag” me, emphasis on attempt. Most LM who hate Beyoncé feel that everything they say about her is fact. You are like many others and will only see or comprehend what you want- or as much as you can...  either way, go back and read my post or just keep being a Beyoncé hater lol life moves on. 

I'm not a Beyonce hater at all. The thing that she jumps on every remix to get a hit is a fact. I also said that Gaga's not doing this. That's all