German politican: We want the United States of Europe!

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, Saint Laurent said:

You would want to extend more undemocratic law making powers to more non-democratically elected bureaucrats? Wow.

It's kind of obvious that things will get more democratic once Europe get federalized. Also, we have EU elections here so

 

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

2 minutes ago, Melech said:

It's kind of obvious that things will get more democratic once Europe get federalized. Also, we have EU elections here so

 

You can't be serious, surely? All it would lead to is further derogation of domestic law. We elect national Parliaments to make law, not to hand that power over to unelected bodies.

Yah, everyone does, then all the decisions are made by unelected officials.

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said:

You can't be serious, surely? All it would lead to is further derogation of domestic law. We elect national Parliaments to make law, not to hand that power over to unelected bodies.

Yah, everyone does, then all the decisions are made by unelected officials.

Aren't you from UK anyway?

 

[DiscoStyx 3,355]

No we don't.

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

1 minute ago, Melech said:

Aren't you from UK anyway?

 

And?

[bumblebee 2,528]

You know, I'd be really happy if someone in this thread explained to me the following:

why were the trading, financial, economic, labor and migration levels of integration not enough for the EU? What was the need for the political level, too, for creating this ground for the future conflicts between the national governments and the general EU line? 

thanks 

 

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, Saint Laurent said:

And?

It's of course that you are biased since your little country is slipping into irrelevancy once they are completely out. 

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, bumblebee said:

You know, I'd be really happy if someone in this thread explained to me the following:

why were the trading, financial, economic, labor and migration level of integration not enough for the EU? What was the need for the political level, too, for creating this ground for the future conflicts between the national governments and the general EU line? 

thanks 

 

We live in an age of globalization. If European states want to have say in world affairs, we need unite. No one would loose anything

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

Just now, Melech said:

It's of course that you are biased since your little country is slipping into irrelevancy once they are completely out. 

I think you're the one that's biased if you believe a 'United States of Europe' would be more democratic than it currently is. Delusional, actually.

Still a superpower sis.

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

3 minutes ago, bumblebee said:

You know, I'd be really happy if someone in this thread explained to me the following:

why were the trading, financial, economic, labor and migration levels of integration not enough for the EU? What was the need for the political level, too, for creating this ground for the future conflicts between the national governments and the general EU line? 

thanks 

 

There was absolutely no need, which is why we are currently in the position we are with some member states leaving and others considering it.

They hate nationalism is the short answer and couldn't bear to think that a country could govern itself without guidance/interference from a supranational body.

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said:

I think you're the one that's biased if you believe a 'United States of Europe' would be more democratic than it currently is. Delusional, actually.

Still a superpower sis.

Where the **** is UK a superpower? 

[bumblebee 2,528]

guys keep it respectful please 

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

Just now, Melech said:

Where the **** is UK a superpower? 

Exhibit A. You're biased.

[Noah 27,418]

2 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said:

Still a superpower sis.

for how long will they try and claim that title though? Banks are slowly moving to mainland europe now. It's too risky to have your company in the UK now.

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said:

Exhibit A. You're biased.

I want some source which says that UK is a superpower  As long as you can give me a reliable source, you are wrong.