Whispering 18,865 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, PartySick said: OT: Has his b.s. reasoning behind this move been revealed? Or it is literally just "LOL let's piss off the Muslims". 'Cause I wouldn't be surprised. I'm actually expecting it Trump is hoping for his own personal 9/11. Same thing he is doing with North Korea. Bush showed a national tragedy and ensuing war was a great way to boost sagging approval ratings, so this could definitely be his strategy. Also, he's needing a Hail Mary pass to distract from the Russia investigation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew2512 321 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Bambino said: What I meant is that it's not always about religion and that region hasn't always been fighting over that. Regarding some specific issues, like what's recently been going in that region, it's caused by colonialism and mandate systems that happened over the last centuries. It all led to messes. It's not always about religion. Boy bye I'm Middle Eastern and it's all chaoes cause of which Islamic group can kick military off and rule the country and whether it should be burqas or auras and **** like that causing wars 24/7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,390 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Andrew2512 said: Boy bye I'm Middle Eastern and it's all chaoes cause of which Islamic group can kick military off and rule the country and whether it should be burqas or auras and **** like that causing wars 24/7. I said it's not always about religion. Plus, I wasn't talking about messes as of recently in the region, but when the messes that started way back when there was a mandate all over the Middle East. That one wasn't about religion, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 This seems so irrelevant honestly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 118,059 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: This seems so irrelevant honestly It isn’t. If the United States moved the embassy to Jerusalem, it would mean that the US effectively recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That would overturn 70 years of international consensus, and, many argue, would effectively signal the end of moves to achieve peace between Israelis and Palestinians. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ⁱᵐ'ᵐᵃ ʰⁱᵗ ᵈᵉᶠʳᵒˢᵗ ᵒⁿ ʸᵃ, ˡᵉᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵇˡᵃᶻⁱⁿᵍ﹗ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP2 3,948 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 hours ago, kyanewest said: As if the middle east didn't cause its own problems all by themselves with the religion dilemma. Everything is about religion, the yemeni civil war, and many others in the past. Always religion and sure other countries trying to solve it make it worse sometimes. But the middle east has always been a mess let's not try to dismiss that cause it's politically correct to say white people ruin everything all the **** that happened and still happens in the ME was rooted from colonialism, so white people... well I can't say all but most and they still get involved in the ME and make things actually worse. Btw, white people = western governments not like the people lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP2 3,948 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Melech said: Where should the Jews go? To the sea? Israel has a right to exist as Palestine has a right to exist. this!!! no peace will be made if both parties wanted to denie the existence of the other. Palestine and Israel have both the right to coexist in peace. But Israel should stop its apartheid on Palestinians and Palestinians should also come down and try to keep this peace. so yeah, it's a very complicated subject to discuss on a GGD forum. And I think people should ignore what happened in the past and move forward. If we keep fighting about who had originally the right to occupy this land we will still have wars and terror. Let's think about the future and just make peace. But I just hope Americans and all these Western governments to mind their own businesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOP2 3,948 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Triggered said: What's the real interest in all the world powers in this area? I don't believe that "we want to make peace there" bullshit. no they never want peace. everyone knows it at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Born To Slay said: This seems so irrelevant honestly You should research this subject. This move has far reaching and potentially explosive consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Melech said: Israel was created as a safe place for Jews, yes. And history shown it was important considering that most Arab countries kicked their Jews out To be fair in an ideal world imo, Israel should have been carved out of Germany, Poland, Ukraine, etc. as the ultimate reparation for the Jews.... Jews were historically more at peace with their Arab Muslim counterparts than the shitty way White Europeans treated their Jewish neighbors. But history is history, and Trump is exacerbating the unrest between Israelis and Palestinians with this move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,563 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm scared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Gov Hooka said: To be fair in an ideal world imo, Israel should have been carved out of Germany, Poland, Ukraine, etc. as the ultimate reparation for the Jews.... Jews were historically more at peace with their Arab Muslim counterparts than the shitty way White Europeans treated their Jewish neighbors. But history is history, and Trump is exacerbating the unrest between Israelis and Palestinians with this move Sis, never heard of the Farhud, Safed or Hebron massacre? Anti semitism always existed in every culture. It’s not a White European thing. Israel is the historically home and the mufti of Pslestine even allied with the Nazis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigma 205 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 16 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said: You know what I meant White people caused WWII. White people then divided the middle east, just like they did to Africa. White people then made the middle east chaotic for personal gain because of the oil. The middle East has no representation in the UN. So yeah, some whites are responsible for the middle east, and they are just making it worse. So it is not just idiot people, but white people? Are you insane or just plain stupid? Maybe white people are also responsible for all atrocities in black Africa, or for all wars in yellow asia.. Let me tell you something, because you apparently didn't get it yet - it doesn't matter what the color of you skin is. What matters is what you do. And unfortunately very bad and nasty things have been done by many with all possible skin colors.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Melech said: What the hell Not going to discuss any further with anti-semites. Please stop throwing "anti-semite" everywhere you go. He's asking about the land, not the Jews / people themselves. God. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 One of the main campaign donors for Trump threatened to stop donating if they didn't do this a few months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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