Trump retweets 3 anti-muslim videos

[hoebitch11 3,924]

gagadaily should take to twitter with an anti-trump hashtag and just end the binch already tbh

[Edonis 28,974]

5 hours ago, Bad Chanel said:

maybe you do your research first, Idolatry is banned in islam

That doesn’t mean Muslims go out intentionally and destroy other faith’s religious monuments  And desecration has never been tolerated by any other Muslim person I knew in Lebanon or the US (where I’ve spent the most of my time in). That’s just plain vandalism and disrespectful. For example, there are countless Christian monuments and structures in the surrounding Muslim-majority neighborhoods in Tyre and I’ve never seen anyone blatantly take them down just because it depcits Jesus or the Virgin Mary or anyone else who is also part of Muslim faith. I’m not sure about other countries or communities, but I assume they too would consider that vandalism and also illegal. 

[Gagafy 296]

1 minute ago, Edonis said:

That doesn’t mean Muslims go out intentionally and destroy other faith’s religious monuments  And desecration has never been tolerated by any other Muslim person I knew in Lebanon or the US (where I’ve spent the most of my time in). That’s just plain vandalism and disrespectful. For example, there are countless Christian monuments and structures in the surrounding Muslim-majority neighborhoods in Tyre and I’ve never seen anyone blatantly take them down just because it depcits Jesus or the Virgin Mary or anyone else who is also part of Muslim faith. I’m not sure about other countries or communities, but I assume they too would consider that vandalism and also illegal. 

 

person who does vandalism knows no skin color nor religion. Every sane person knows it's wrong for vandalism, and yet, it happens everywhere. You don't have to be extra protective just specifically for muslims, this is a very general issue that is happening for all religions and people with different skin colors.

[Edonis 28,974]

1 minute ago, Gagafy said:

 

person who does vandalism knows no skin color nor religion. Every sane person knows it's wrong for vandalism, and yet, it happens everywhere. You don't have to be extra protective just specifically for muslims, this is a very general issue that is happening for all religions and people with different skin colors.

I’m speaking in the context of Islam because a) that’s what this thread is primarily about and b) this is a fairly common issue that a lot of anti-Islam pro****ents often push as if it’s normalized in the culture. 

But yes, I agree. This does exist in other cultures and faiths, and vandalism is still vandalism, regardless. 

[Gagafy 296]

Just now, Edonis said:

I’m speaking in the context of Islam because a) that’s what this thread is primarily about and b) this is a fairly common issue that a lot of anti-Islam pro****ents often push as if it’s normalized in the culture. 

But yes, I agree. This does exist in other cultures and faiths, and vandalism is still vandalism, regardless. 

from a perspective of a minority from a muslim country, those are not untrue.

[Edonis 28,974]

2 minutes ago, Gagafy said:

from a perspective of a minority from a muslim country, those are not untrue.

Which country do you live in where it's normal for the majority of the Muslim community to band together and take down any religious monument erected by another religious group? Because I'm not trying to say that it hasn't happened (because I can actually think of a few counties where that would occur) but I'm curious to know which country finds that to be appropriate behavior and not in the grounds of breaking any laws.

[Gagafy 296]

15 minutes ago, Edonis said:

Which country do you live in where it's normal for the majority of the Muslim community to band together and take down any religious monument erected by another religious group? Because I'm not trying to say that it hasn't happened (because I can actually think of a few counties where that would occur) but I'm curious to know which country finds that to be appropriate behavior and not in the grounds of breaking any laws.

Come on, it doesnt happen 24/7, it happens often enough to be visible enough in alternative news media. but not being reported by mainstream news as it would be filtered. Things that that i could recall so far, arson attack on churches, throwing of cow's head to indian temples, institutional racism, forced conversions of children to muslims.

On top of that, continuous racism remarks and harassment towards the minorities from the leaders of the country. Imagine if Trump does that as often as the leaders of where i stay, CNN would have 10x more news to report of the same thing.

[Edonis 28,974]

6 minutes ago, Gagafy said:

Come on, it doesnt happen 24/7, it happens often enough to be visible enough in alternative news media. but not being reported by mainstream news as it would be filtered. Things that that i could recall so far, arson attack on churches, throwing of cow's head to indian temples, institutional racism, forced conversions of children to muslims.

On top of that, continuous racism remarks and harassment towards the minorities from the leaders of the country. Imagine if Trump does that as often as the leaders of where i stay, CNN would have 10x more news to report of the same thing.

You didn't answer my question, but hey, it is your choice to keep your life private so I'm not going to pry any more on that issue.

As for what you said, may I direct this back to the discussion that religious desecration exists in many cultures, including Muslim and Christian communities. As far as I've heard, outside of countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, there aren't many out there that have laws that would protect vandals from destroying religious iconography. There are obviously shady governments that enforce and preach extreme/conservative ideologies that would feed into that behavior, which is not only gross but also kind of considered a sin to progressive Islam, but for people to imply in this thread that it is a distinct attribute to Muslims is asinine. There are literally religious hate-crimes against Jews, Muslims, etc. that include damaging or harming religious items as well. The issue is that this current sense of propaganda that seems to be spreading in the west (and particularly in Europe) where Muslims are vile, inhumane creatures of the desert that are above the law and destroy what they want, is completely untrue of the majority of the population. And using evidence of gang members or extremist hate groups or governments isn't exactly accurate evidence either (as most governments in those countries tend to not accurately serve the needs of the people i.e. they're corrupt as **** ).

[Gagafy 296]

34 minutes ago, Edonis said:

You didn't answer my question, but hey, it is your choice to keep your life private so I'm not going to pry any more on that issue.

As for what you said, may I direct this back to the discussion that religious desecration exists in many cultures, including Muslim and Christian communities. As far as I've heard, outside of countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, there aren't many out there that have laws that would protect vandals from destroying religious iconography. There are obviously shady governments that enforce and preach extreme/conservative ideologies that would feed into that behavior, which is not only gross but also kind of considered a sin to progressive Islam, but for people to imply in this thread that it is a distinct attribute to Muslims is asinine. There are literally religious hate-crimes against Jews, Muslims, etc. that include damaging or harming religious items as well. The issue is that this current sense of propaganda that seems to be spreading in the west (and particularly in Europe) where Muslims are vile, inhumane creatures of the desert that are above the law and destroy what they want, is completely untrue of the majority of the population. And using evidence of gang members or extremist hate groups or governments isn't exactly accurate evidence either (as most governments in those countries tend to not accurately serve the needs of the people i.e. they're corrupt as **** ).

Thanks for understanding that for my privacy.

It's healthy when one is able to see problems from both sides, and that's what I've been saying for the past replies, and you're the only one that could really see the overall picture of what's really happening.

The Western fear of islamization is happening, due to many factors as what you've mentioned. The spreading of extremism in the Muslims community through preaches, groups, are very real. Both sides need to stop.

[Xoxo Adriana 15,040]

This is disgusting, I'm not a racist person but I really hope the men in these videos rot in hell....CHRISTIAN hell. Or whatever hell exists. Yet we have people complaining about LGBT rights in my country as if it's an issue bigger than these issues. F**k off  

seriously? beating up a defenceless man on crutches? Do they really think their god approves this mess?

[Andrew2512 321]

The videos are real tho so...

[Princess Diana 24,487]

48 minutes ago, Andrew2512 said:

The videos are real tho so...

 

For ****s sake

1)In that bully crutches video, the perpetrator isn't even a ****ing muslim. Check dutch media. Fake ****ing news.

2)The account he just retweeted three times is that of the deputy leader of Britain First who has been charged for verbally attacking a woman (in front of her kids, for being muslim).

3)Britain First are a tiny, largely ignored, deeply hateful and racist group who tweet videos of brown people celebrating winning cricket matches with captions implying they're cheering terrorism.

4)The only member of parliament murdered in Britain since the height of the IRA troubles of the 80s, was MP Jo Cox who in 2016 was shot and stabbed by a supporter of Britain First, shouting "Britain First".

5)As useless as this feels to write, the United States President sets the tone, not just in the US, but his sentiment is heard and echoes across the globe. He is emboldening bigots everywhere. This tacit approval, this promotion of people preying on legitimate fears and concerns is not ok. It cannot become the new normal.

6)It's easy to find and publish videos that demonize any group of people: soldiers, police, feminists, women using kids as ploys, Asians, white Africans, black Africans, pro lifers, pro choices, animal rights activisits. Like I said. Legitimate concerns. Yes, there are good reasons why rapid migration of people from parts of the world where customs and beliefs are at complete odds with western values causes issues. By all means have grown-up conversations about the reality of the present day, about integration, rate of migration, radicalisation, isolation, prevalence of sharia believers, fgm, homophobia etc

Trump is simply inciting hatred. Blind, emotional, rage and hatred. We already have a massive spike in hate crimes in the UK. This is ****ed up. It's not inconsequential bull. Of course the media over hype their response. But it has real world consequences. These seeds of division. What an utter ****tard.

[God Control 2,181]

Here's the thing, you don't have to say a specific set of words to qualify as a racist, you don't have to explicitly say that you're against this religion or that sexual orientation group to be considered a sexist or a homophobic person. Sometimes the horrible things you're apologetic towards, the way you try to rationalize hatred or even the things your retweet or people post on your timeline are an instant giveaway into who and what you really are, and this abomination of a human being is the perfect example for this.

[Andrew2512 321]

1 hour ago, Luna Lovegood said:

 

For ****s sake

1)In that bully crutches video, the perpetrator isn't even a ****ing muslim. Check dutch media. Fake ****ing news.

2)The account he just retweeted three times is that of the deputy leader of Britain First who has been charged for verbally attacking a woman (in front of her kids, for being muslim).

3)Britain First are a tiny, largely ignored, deeply hateful and racist group who tweet videos of brown people celebrating winning cricket matches with captions implying they're cheering terrorism.

4)The only member of parliament murdered in Britain since the height of the IRA troubles of the 80s, was MP Jo Cox who in 2016 was shot and stabbed by a supporter of Britain First, shouting "Britain First".

5)As useless as this feels to write, the United States President sets the tone, not just in the US, but his sentiment is heard and echoes across the globe. He is emboldening bigots everywhere. This tacit approval, this promotion of people preying on legitimate fears and concerns is not ok. It cannot become the new normal.

6)It's easy to find and publish videos that demonize any group of people: soldiers, police, feminists, women using kids as ploys, Asians, white Africans, black Africans, pro lifers, pro choices, animal rights activisits. Like I said. Legitimate concerns. Yes, there are good reasons why rapid migration of people from parts of the world where customs and beliefs are at complete odds with western values causes issues. By all means have grown-up conversations about the reality of the present day, about integration, rate of migration, radicalisation, isolation, prevalence of sharia believers, fgm, homophobia etc

Trump is simply inciting hatred. Blind, emotional, rage and hatred. We already have a massive spike in hate crimes in the UK. This is ****ed up. It's not inconsequential bull. Of course the media over hype their response. But it has real world consequences. These seeds of division. What an utter ****tard.

Sweetie I'm Arabian and I can assure you that the dude speaking ARABIC in the second video is a typical terrorist Islamist surrounded by a punch of typical terrorist sheep followers. Stop with the crap of equality **** before those terrorists succeed in their plan of taking all over the world that they already started . Come live her in a shithole Arabian country being Christian and talk again **** like this. We're considered infidels here that should be killed and tortured and try being a Christian woman with her hair exposed while 80% of population wears auras that's like a crime in their eyes. I'm not saying Muslims are terrorists no I have great loving incredible muslim friends but Islamists who categorise themselves as muslims are. Trump is so right trying to limit refugees numbers and immigration overall. You'll thank him later when in about a decade from now Europe is run by ISIS.

[JDi 1,495]

9 hours ago, StarryNight said:

lmao

she's kind of right tho

lego's heart is in the right place but she's too hung on justifying the excess in the attitudes of everyone who liberalism declares a victim, forgets that she can always be outsmarted with arguments in the name of the same ideology, surrenders and goes back to find comfort in the official "verdict" which can be right or wrong but never an excuse for the ignorance of the victim. 


I agree with you that Bosnia will never be Bosnian only. that's disrespectful to history.

Serbs and Croats were neighboring Slavic tribes north of the Carpathians that migrated south gradually in the later stages of the Slavic migration. the Balkans were already a melting pot of Greco-Romans, Slavs and what was left of Illyrians and Thracians with the Slavs being most widely distributed. as the Bulgar-Slavic alliance was conquering the Thraco-Roman lands in the East, Croats and Serbs began a race for dominance over the rest of the Slavic tribes in the Illyro-Roman lands in the West. Serbs started, Croats caught up, Serbs took hold of the central part of the Dinaric Alps, then the Croats reclaimed it, then the Serbs went back north, Croats met them there too etc. and the land that got tossed around the most and was often left out of both the Croat and Serb confederations was the Bosna river valley. after a period of division between Hungary and the Byzantine empire, no man's land finally emerged as its own country and became the third Slavic dominion in the Western Balkans. but were they different from Croats and Serbs? no. in fact, they were the link between them... and those weren't even "Croats" and "Serbs". they were still Illyro-Romano-Slavs bearing the names of the long-assimilated "master" tribes that established regional strongholds. so who were the Bosniaks again? well, they were the same Illyro-Romano-Slavic mix bearing the Slavicized Illyro-Roman name of a river. 

the Ottomans conquered the Balkans and took advantage of Bosnia's heresy breaking the Christian continuum and their neither-Serb-nor-Croat identity breaking the Slavic one by giving the former Banate unique ethno-historical administrative recognition in order to prevent the emergence of strong pan-Slavic consciousness. furthermore, as the most important frontier province of the empire, the region received the most welfare, many Turks settled in the area and surprise, surprise! Slavic Muslims were suddenly not only a thing but a majority.

but what people fail to realize is that not everyone who converted to Islam was formerly a Bosniak and not all Bosniaks did it. some decided they have always been Serbs or Croats, some former heretics and Catholics became Orthodox Serbs and since the Bosnia eyalet incorporated all Ottoman-conquered Croatian territories, the split of Croatia and its later separation between two empires led to some Ottoman Croats deciding they might as well start calling themselves Serbian second in order to create a new ethno-religious consciousness as a majority with the original Serbs, the Serbian-church-Slavs and the remaining Catholic and Bogomil Bosniaks. a mess. but they kind of succeeded and by the mid-19th century Croats, Bosniaks and Serbs were often collectively referred to as Serbs. had they chosen Christian Slavs or simply Christians and not Serbs for their collective name during Ottoman times, we would now have a 150 year old Yugoslav state (with Sarajevo being a likely capital) that's still going strong. pan-Serbism, Kosovo denial and Macedonia brainwash prevented the realization of a 1300 year old oneness. that's why former Yugoslav republics, even if it's on a subconscious level, hate Serbs. it's not that Bosnia is not Serbian, it's just that Belgrade ****ed it up.



anyways,

does Bosnia belong to Muslim Bosniaks? yes. does Bosnia belong to Serbs and Croats? even more so. 

should Bosnia exist? yes. was Yugoslavia a bad idea? no.

are people irresponsible and masochistic? duh.