Do Madonna fans know what 'Reductive' means?

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2 minutes ago, Triggered said:

I don’t see how it is “simplistic”, since besides being empowering songs, they don’t even talk about the same topic.

And it’s not like Express Yourself has some Bjork level of innovative production. It’s pretty much the average 80s production + a sample for a 70s song.

Hey dont get all @Triggered  at me. Im just trying explain what shes thinking doesnt mean I agree 

[Levine 23,583]

We don't know. We stopped to care for Madonna and her fans in 2011.

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5 minutes ago, Flamboyant said:

She should have said “it is reductive” then, rather than it feels reductive 

No it is and it feels imply the same form of the word. It is would state it as a fact while it feels states it as a personal opinion. Her usage was correct from what I understand

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59 minutes ago, Hades said:

I won't bother to answer since the same pressed people rush in here to drag Madonna with the same old antics.

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8 hours ago, derpmonster said:

You are right. I don't think someone who is old is worse. I am only being part of this dragging in a fun way - you know, like GGD people call each other "fat." It's in a different sense from fat-shaming and I wouldn't ever call anyone fat actually. Or old.  

Yeah I think age-shaming is so 2007  if the Rolling Stones are in their 70s and can still be womanisers, how come Madonna can't express herself at 59? Besides, she looks like mid 40s anyway so she's clearly taking good care of her appearance 

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The OGH are not the brightest people so  

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I never understood the use of that word for this situation honestly. To me, it means that it reduces something. So what's reduced here ? Did Born this Way reduce Express Yourself ? Does Madonna feel reduced by Born this Way ? If anything, that's a compliment so I really don't understand why she would say that.

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I think Madonna used the word correctly, and honestly that interview wasn't even that shady towards Gaga

I think she used "reductive" to mean that Born This Way was covering the same topic as Express Yourself, but she felt that Born This Way was too surface level and marketable, without delving too much into the issue (but can she really blame Gaga, its a pop song). And the whole "look it up " was, if anything, shading the interviewer more than she's ever directly shaded Gaga.

It all just got blown too out of proportion, and at the end of the day its pop music, and people can believe whatever they want to believe.

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and we all know which song ended up going #1, now don't we

 

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On 11/29/2017 at 1:57 AM, derpmonster said:

Does Madonna know what "reductive" means? 

 

I feel like she used that word in a pretentious way to sound smart (like she often does with words and accents ) and either

1. didn't realize it doesn't mean "copy", or

2. meant that Born This Way, which to her is Gaga's version of Express Yourself, was too simplistic and didn't have nearly the same artistic merits (but since she didn't explain herself, people just took it to mean "copy").

Well Vadge has an IQ of 140 I doubt she doesn't know what that means. She's pretty intelligent albeit arrogant sometimes.

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Watching the original interview, I believed that Madonna was saying that the comparison was reductive -- that there was much more to both songs than this one riff. It was the interviewer who was, frankly, both stupid and malicious, trying to start **** by spinning this into an attack on Gaga.

But then, Madonna played into the resulting controversy, at first just by being coy when asked to clarify, then gradually throwing out more "shady" comments, and finally culminating in the way she presented her mash-up cover during her tour -- with the backdrop that I can never forgive her for.

All of which, I think, was intended more just to get attention than as a serious attack; but Madonna didn't care enough about the feelings she was trampling. And that, to me, became the biggest difference between Madonna and Gaga -- because I knew that if the situations were reversed, Gaga would've cared.

But, I digress.